g25 novi kalkulator

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https://pastebin.com/pz0eGsSD

klikni na link za kordinate


Sadrzi Slovene, Ceska, Poljska, I nekoliko ovi iz novih istrzivanja po BiH i Hrv, ali samo one koji polazuju jak slovenski uticaj.

U pokusaju da desifrujem odakle nam germanski uplivi uljucio sam i populacije koje su prolazile ovuda, Langobarde, Gepide, Gote.

Ostatak je vezan za balkan rani srednji vek, od Rumunije, preko Albanije, Vizantije, Otomana itd.

[barbarylion]

Target: barbarylion_scaledOrg
Distance: 0.9390% / 0.00938988
55.8   Sloveni
25.2   Albania_Medieval
10.8   Hungary_Langobard.SG
7.4   Hungary_LangobardV
0.8   Bulgaria_Medieval



Distance to:   barbarylion_scaledOrg
0.02938052   Sloveni
0.02984839   Sloveni
0.03277018   Sloveni
0.03435389   Sloveni
0.03604386   Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ5.SG
0.03746655   Macedonia_Medieval:I2530
0.04083149   Bulgaria_Medieval:I10548
0.04480692   Hungary_LangobardV:VKNG
0.04694099   Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ3.SG
0.04788569   Sloveni
0.04937219   Germanic_Visigoth:I12162
0.05005401   Denmark_Viking.SG:VK385_noUDG.SG
0.05166704   Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ11.SG
0.05277763   Hungary_LangobardV:SZ12
0.05328178   Sloveni
0.05399016   Sloveni
0.05701117   Hungary_LangobardV:SZ14
0.05909338   Sloveni
0.06212818   Hungary_LangobardV:VKNG
0.06250536   Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL84
0.06300487   Italy_Tuscany_Siena_EarlyMedieval:ETR007
0.06505683   Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG002.A
0.06597069   Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ15.SG
0.06745569   Denmark_Viking.SG:VK445_noUDG.SG
0.06918725   Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL146

[barbarylion]

https://universe-apricity.github.io/Calculators/g25-european-only.html


link za Vahaduo

[Небојша]

Заправо сви имамо сличан уплив словенске генетике, али варира старобалканска компонента. Што ће рећи да је већа разноликост била међу староседелачким живљем, а да су Словени били компактнији (негде и логично). Мада зависи како калкулатор функционише, ипак за староседеоце има више опција, за Словене само једна.

Добио сам практично исти резултат као и на овом калкулатору за рани средњи век. Словени, па затим ова трачка компонента може да се схвати и као Albania_Medieval, а Римљани Блиски исток као Turkey_Byzantine. No Germans detectet! 

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Evo i ovaj probajte

https://pastebin.com/xnhfk6tV


Interesanto da se vidi da Langobardi iz Italije nisu imali nekog dodira sa nama, već ako je uopste bilo dodira to su ovi iz Panonije.
Ovde ih nema, pa "germanski" deo ide uglavnom na ove skando-germane.

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Za onaj prvi probacu da nadjem Ilire, msm da srednji vek albanci vise ima veze sa tračanima.

[barbarylion]

https://postimg.cc/phRhsJhB
https://postimg.cc/23Hbxvz4

[ⲥуⲛцⲉ]

[barbarylion]

Добио сам практично исти резултат као и на овом калкулатору за рани средњи век. Словени, па затим ова трачка компонента може да се схвати и као Albania_Medieval, а Римљани Блиски исток као Turkey_Byzantine. No Germans detectet! 

Da, primetio sam da taj starosedelački faktor ide ili na srednji vek Albanija, ili na Turke Vizantija, sto su vrv istocni rimljani.

Ne znam dal' sam zapostavio neki vise Ilirski uzorak npr one starosedeoce iz Zagreba, ili one Emona-slovenija.
Videcu dal' treba da dodam i njih rade jos boljeg rasporeda.

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Izgleda da sam i tu stavio par Langobarda iz Panonije, al' sam zaboravio..Uglavnom i oni su na tim uzorcima imali izrazito zapadno evropsku genetiku, mnogi su plotovali sa Norvezanima i slicno, ne razlikuju se previse od ovog Skando Germanskog klastera.

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Probaj i onaj prvi

Svaki ovaj link pastebin ima kordinate za razlicit kalkulator tj razlicite kordinate.

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Probaj i onaj prvi

Svaki ovaj link pastebin ima kordinate za razlicit kalkulator tj razlicite kordinate.

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drugi kalk. dodani severni Iliri iz Slovenije, Zagreba, Zadra

Target: barbarylion_simulated_scaledOrg
Distance: 0.5661% / 0.00566133
64.0   Sloveni
17.8   SeverniIliri
14.6   ScandoGermans
3.6   Albania_Medieval

prvi kalk. dodani Iliri isti kao i u ovom gore

Target: barbarylion_simulated_scaledOrg
Distance: 0.8160% / 0.00815954
57.0   Sloveni
21.2   SeverniIliri
9.2   Hungary_Langobard
6.6   Albania_Medieval
6.0   Hungary_Langobard.SG


Dodajte ovo ispod za Ilire, da vidimo koliko zaista ide na Srednjevekovnu Albaniju (Tracane mahom), a koliko na ove koji imaju vise Ilrsko/Alpski genetski profil sa nesto germanskoga upliva.
Imamo sve zastupljeno, od cisto germanskog upliva, Langobardskog ( isto germani, plotuju jako severno), Turska otomanski period, Turska Vizantija (vrv istocni rimljani, ili blisko istocni), takodje imao i srednji vek balkanske populacije kao sto su Rumuni srednji vek, Bugari, Makedonci itd..





SeverniIliri,0.125205,0.159438,0.026021,-0.014212,0.038776,0.005578,-0.00141,0.002077,0.017794,0.030616,0.007307,0.000749,-0.00773,0.004266,-0.008143,-0.017767,-0.012647,0.008615,0.015838,-0.012756,0.002371,0.006306,0.003697,0.002169,0.002395
SeverniIliri,0.136588,0.123895,0.070522,0.068799,0.040007,0.028168,0.0094,0.003461,-0.005727,-0.007107,-0.003573,0.005995,-0.010109,-0.007432,0.021172,0.02148,0.013951,0.005701,0.010559,0.004877,0.009358,0.001978,0.005546,0.010122,-0.006466
SeverniIliri,0.121791,0.148267,0.024513,-0.021318,0.03139,-0.011713,0.003525,0.004615,0.006749,0.032074,-0.00341,0.01094,-0.011893,0.004679,-0.012893,-0.004906,0.007432,-0.00076,0.000377,-0.00988,0.001497,0.003586,0.000739,0.001807,-0.003353
SeverniIliri,0.105855,0.140143,0.015462,-0.021964,0.024928,0.001952,-0.00329,0.006231,0.019225,0.034078,0.010555,0.010491,-0.01219,-0.006193,0.000136,0.000398,0.001695,-0.007981,-0.00264,0.002376,-0.010357,0.003091,-0.000123,-0.001084,-0.01413
SeverniIliri,0.120652,0.148267,0.004903,-0.033269,0.018157,-0.018407,-0.00047,0.000923,0.000818,0.0277,0.000325,0.004196,-0.006244,-0.005643,-0.012622,0.011933,0.021122,0.0019,0.00264,-0.010505,-0.009733,-0.005812,-0.002342,0.009278,0.001676
SeverniIliri,0.121791,0.156392,-0.014331,-0.054587,0.007694,-0.015897,0.000235,-0.001385,-0.007567,0.010387,0.006171,-0.002997,-0.003419,-0.001101,-0.005429,-0.00769,0.002477,0.003041,0.002137,0.006253,0.00549,-0.001978,0.000616,0.000482,0.00479
SeverniIliri,0.124067,0.139128,0.04714,0.009044,0.032314,0,0.00517,0.003,0.015135,0.008201,0.00065,0.008542,-0.003717,0.007569,-0.006922,-0.005171,-0.003651,-0.001267,0.001634,0.006628,-0.001123,-0.000618,0.00419,-0.008796,-0.002036
SeverniIliri,0.124067,0.148267,0.027907,-0.000969,0.020004,0.005578,0.00329,0.002769,0.001432,0.025331,0.002761,-0.004196,-0.009217,0.000138,-0.00285,-0.00411,0.008214,0,0.000126,0.007003,0.000125,0.005812,0.006779,0.008796,-0.0097
SeverniIliri,0.092197,0.15436,-0.001131,-0.055233,0.024312,-0.022032,-0.001645,-0.003,0.022498,0.015308,0.002761,-0.001349,0.0055,-0.008533,0.0057,-0.003978,0.007953,-0.004181,0.000377,-0.007379,-0.000873,0.003833,-0.004683,0.003253,-0.00012
SeverniIliri,0.125205,0.159438,0.026021,-0.014212,0.038776,0.005578,-0.00141,0.002077,0.017794,0.030616,0.007307,0.000749,-0.00773,0.004266,-0.008143,-0.017767,-0.012647,0.008615,0.015838,-0.012756,0.002371,0.006306,0.003697,0.002169,0.002395
SeverniIliri,0.130897,0.157407,0.014331,-0.04845,0.02462,-0.017012,-0.002115,-0.000692,0.013499,0.047381,0.009906,0.01109,-0.00996,-0.008395,-0.021308,-0.000796,0.021122,0.005448,0.007919,-0.008629,-0.011355,-0.001731,-0.003574,0.006627,-0.003233
SeverniIliri,0.124067,0.148267,0.017725,-0.02261,0.033545,-0.009482,-0.003525,-0.006,0.014726,0.020775,-0.001461,0.006894,-0.008325,-0.00234,-0.00665,-0.004906,-0.002477,0.004054,0.00352,-0.007754,0.007487,0.005688,0.001109,-0.001205,-0.010538

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SeverniIliri1,0.125205,0.159438,0.026021,-0.014212,0.038776,0.005578,-0.00141,0.002077,0.017794,0.030616,0.007307,0.000749,-0.00773,0.004266,-0.008143,-0.017767,-0.012647,0.008615,0.015838,-0.012756,0.002371,0.006306,0.003697,0.002169,0.002395
SeverniIliri3,0.121791,0.148267,0.024513,-0.021318,0.03139,-0.011713,0.003525,0.004615,0.006749,0.032074,-0.00341,0.01094,-0.011893,0.004679,-0.012893,-0.004906,0.007432,-0.00076,0.000377,-0.00988,0.001497,0.003586,0.000739,0.001807,-0.003353
SeverniIliri4,0.105855,0.140143,0.015462,-0.021964,0.024928,0.001952,-0.00329,0.006231,0.019225,0.034078,0.010555,0.010491,-0.01219,-0.006193,0.000136,0.000398,0.001695,-0.007981,-0.00264,0.002376,-0.010357,0.003091,-0.000123,-0.001084,-0.01413
SeverniIliri7,0.124067,0.139128,0.04714,0.009044,0.032314,0,0.00517,0.003,0.015135,0.008201,0.00065,0.008542,-0.003717,0.007569,-0.006922,-0.005171,-0.003651,-0.001267,0.001634,0.006628,-0.001123,-0.000618,0.00419,-0.008796,-0.002036
SeverniIliri8,0.124067,0.148267,0.027907,-0.000969,0.020004,0.005578,0.00329,0.002769,0.001432,0.025331,0.002761,-0.004196,-0.009217,0.000138,-0.00285,-0.00411,0.008214,0,0.000126,0.007003,0.000125,0.005812,0.006779,0.008796,-0.0097
SeverniIliri10,0.125205,0.159438,0.026021,-0.014212,0.038776,0.005578,-0.00141,0.002077,0.017794,0.030616,0.007307,0.000749,-0.00773,0.004266,-0.008143,-0.017767,-0.012647,0.008615,0.015838,-0.012756,0.002371,0.006306,0.003697,0.002169,0.002395
SeverniIliri12,0.124067,0.148267,0.017725,-0.02261,0.033545,-0.009482,-0.003525,-0.006,0.014726,0.020775,-0.001461,0.006894,-0.008325,-0.00234,-0.00665,-0.004906,-0.002477,0.004054,0.00352,-0.007754,0.007487,0.005688,0.001109,-0.001205,-0.010538


ipak dodajte ove, medju onim prvima je bilo par cudnih uzoraka.

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Target: barbarylion_simulated_scaledOrg
Distance: 0.6067% / 0.00606720
70.4   Sloveni
10.8   Albania_Medieval
10.0   ScandoGermans
5.6   SeverniIliri10
2.8   SeverniIliri1
0.4   Italy_Tuscany_Siena_EarlyMedieval


nema neke razlike, previse su nestabilni i razliciti ovi sto sam ih nazvao severim ilirima.

[barbarylion]

Target: barbarylion_scaledOrg
Distance: 0.9335% / 0.00933474
56.0   Sloveni
23.4   Albania_Medieval
10.0   Hungary_Langobard.SG
7.0   Hungary_LangobardV
3.6   SeverniIliri8

drugi

Target: barbarylion_scaledOrg
Distance: 0.6067% / 0.00606650
70.4   Sloveni
10.8   Albania_Medieval
10.2   ScandoGermans
6.8   SeverniIliri10
1.2   SeverniIliri1
0.6   Italy_Tuscany_Siena_EarlyMedieval


to je kada se dodaju ovi Iliri, mada i nema neke razlike podele se malo Iliri i Albanija srednji vek, ostalo ostaje isto.

[Небојша]

Интересантан калкулатор: World Ancient Calculator (By Joshua) - Scaled

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/194/world-ancient-calculator-by-joshua.htm

Нема Словена (постоји додуше Baltic_Ancient), али има старих бронзанодопских (и млађих) популација: Илира-Трачана, Грка, Феничана, Хетита, Германа, Скита, итд. Условно, показатељ коме смо аутосомално најближи од староседелачких популација. 88% Илир-Трачанин, нормално плус логично. 

[barbarylion]

Target: barbarylion_scaledOrg
Distance: 0.8900% / 0.00889989
55.2   Illyrian_Thracian_Ancient
21.2   Baltic_Ancient
19.2   Etruscan
2.0   Sardinia_Ancient
1.8   Nordic_Bronze_Age
0.6   Scytho-Sarmatian_West

Distance to:   barbarylion_scaledOrg
0.01723154   Illyrian_Thracian
0.01957234   Illyrian_Thracian_Ancient
0.04338850   Scytho-Sarmatian_West
0.04853616   Germanic_Mainland
0.04907986   Belgae_France_North
0.05830948   Britain_Highlands_Ancient
0.05898788   Etruscan
0.05922818   Nordic_Bronze_Age
0.06297242   Ireland_Ancient
0.07103534   Scytho-Sarmatian_East
0.07107454   Latium
0.07467245   Massilian_France_South
0.07626733   Tartessian_Iberia_Main
0.08093456   Iberia_Basque_Ancient
0.09398939   Baltic_Ancient
0.09584760   Hittite_Central
0.09612191   Magna_Graecia
0.11376666   Aegean_Ancient
0.13610011   Sardinia_Ancient
0.14687331   Caucasus_North_Ancient
0.15940007   Caucasus_South_Ancient
0.15997539   Median
0.16129673   Aramean
0.16310360   Phoenician
0.17097229   Elamite_Lowlands

[barbarylion]

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/201/global-genetic-diversity-calculator-by-mythbuster-general.htm

ovaj daje interesantne distance

Distance to:   barbarylion_scaledOrg
0.01495322   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Serb_Bosnia):Serb_Bosnia_(n=7)
0.01844992   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Bosniak_Croatia):Bosniak_Croatia_(n=7)
0.02173271   Southeast_European_Romance_(Moldovan):Moldovan_(n=35)
0.02261071   Central_European_Germanic_(Austrian):Austrian_(n=18)
0.02291471   Central_European_Uralic_(Hungarian):Hungarian_(n=22)
0.02315413   Southeast_European_SLavic_(Croat_Bosnia):Croat_Bosnia_(n=5)
0.02570707   Southeast_European_Romance_(Romanian):Romanian_(n=28)
0.02676142   Southeast_European_Romance_(Vlach_Serbia):Vlach_Serbia_(n=1)
0.02694268   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Bosniak_Serbia):Bosniak_Sandzak_(n=6)
0.03090653   Central_European_Germanic_(Southwest_German):German_Baden-Wurttemberg_(n=5)
0.03183786   East_European_Slavic_(Rusyn_Ukraine):Rusyn_Ukraine_(n=1)
0.03295374   Central_European_Slavic_(Lemko_Poland):Rusyn_Lemko_Poland_(n=4)
0.03445904   Central_European_Slavic_(Czech):Czech_(n=21)
0.03538541   Southeast_European_Germanic_(Transylvanian_Saxon_Romania):Transylvanian_Saxon_(n=2)
0.04105405   Central_European_Slavic_(Slovak):Slovak_(n=6)
0.04189748   West_European_Romance_(East_French):French_Oil_Bourgogne-Franche-Comte_Doubs_(n=2)
0.04414433   Central_European_Slavic_(South_Polish):Polish_Silesia_(n=2)
0.04459862   Southeast_European_Slavic_(North_Macedonian):Macedonian_North_Macedonia_(n=32)
0.04587629   Southeast_European_Turkic_(Gagauz_Moldova):Gagauz_(n=9)
0.04640537   Central_European_Germanic_(East_German):German_East_(n=14)
0.04668604   West_European_Romance_(Northcentral_French):French_Oil_Ile-de-France_Paris_(n=11)
0.04678036   West_European_Romance_(West_French):French_Oil_Pays_de_la_Loire_Maine-et-Loire_(n=4)
0.04707988   Central_European_Romance_(Swiss_French):Swiss_French_(n=8)
0.04825216   West_European_Germanic_(Flemish_France):Flemish_France_Nord_(n=4)
0.04839116   West_European_Romance_(Occitan_Southeast_France):French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_Bouches-du-Rhone_Marseille_(n=13)

[Небојша]

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculator/201/global-genetic-diversity-calculator-by-mythbuster-general.htm

ovaj daje interesantne distance

Distance to:   barbarylion_scaledOrg
0.01495322   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Serb_Bosnia):Serb_Bosnia_(n=7)
0.01844992   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Bosniak_Croatia):Bosniak_Croatia_(n=7)
0.02173271   Southeast_European_Romance_(Moldovan):Moldovan_(n=35)
0.02261071   Central_European_Germanic_(Austrian):Austrian_(n=18)
0.02291471   Central_European_Uralic_(Hungarian):Hungarian_(n=22)
0.02315413   Southeast_European_SLavic_(Croat_Bosnia):Croat_Bosnia_(n=5)
0.02570707   Southeast_European_Romance_(Romanian):Romanian_(n=28)
0.02676142   Southeast_European_Romance_(Vlach_Serbia):Vlach_Serbia_(n=1)
0.02694268   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Bosniak_Serbia):Bosniak_Sandzak_(n=6)
0.03090653   Central_European_Germanic_(Southwest_German):German_Baden-Wurttemberg_(n=5)
0.03183786   East_European_Slavic_(Rusyn_Ukraine):Rusyn_Ukraine_(n=1)
0.03295374   Central_European_Slavic_(Lemko_Poland):Rusyn_Lemko_Poland_(n=4)
0.03445904   Central_European_Slavic_(Czech):Czech_(n=21)
0.03538541   Southeast_European_Germanic_(Transylvanian_Saxon_Romania):Transylvanian_Saxon_(n=2)
0.04105405   Central_European_Slavic_(Slovak):Slovak_(n=6)
0.04189748   West_European_Romance_(East_French):French_Oil_Bourgogne-Franche-Comte_Doubs_(n=2)
0.04414433   Central_European_Slavic_(South_Polish):Polish_Silesia_(n=2)
0.04459862   Southeast_European_Slavic_(North_Macedonian):Macedonian_North_Macedonia_(n=32)
0.04587629   Southeast_European_Turkic_(Gagauz_Moldova):Gagauz_(n=9)
0.04640537   Central_European_Germanic_(East_German):German_East_(n=14)
0.04668604   West_European_Romance_(Northcentral_French):French_Oil_Ile-de-France_Paris_(n=11)
0.04678036   West_European_Romance_(West_French):French_Oil_Pays_de_la_Loire_Maine-et-Loire_(n=4)
0.04707988   Central_European_Romance_(Swiss_French):Swiss_French_(n=8)
0.04825216   West_European_Germanic_(Flemish_France):Flemish_France_Nord_(n=4)
0.04839116   West_European_Romance_(Occitan_Southeast_France):French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_Bouches-du-Rhone_Marseille_(n=13)

Distance to:   Неша
0.02367612   Southeast_European_Romance_(Romanian):Romanian_(n=28)
0.02446907   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Serb_Bosnia):Serb_Bosnia_(n=7)
0.02545419   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Bosniak_Serbia):Bosniak_Sandzak_(n=6)
0.02772771   Southeast_European_Romance_(Vlach_Serbia):Vlach_Serbia_(n=1)
0.02798365   Southeast_European_SLavic_(Croat_Bosnia):Croat_Bosnia_(n=5)
0.02944070   Southeast_European_Slavic_(Bosniak_Croatia):Bosniak_Croatia_(n=7)
0.03361416   Southeast_European_Slavic_(North_Macedonian):Macedonian_North_Macedonia_(n=32)
0.03460142   Southeast_European_Romance_(Moldovan):Moldovan_(n=35)
0.03553787   Southeast_European_Turkic_(Gagauz_Moldova):Gagauz_(n=9)
0.03991245   Central_European_Germanic_(Austrian):Austrian_(n=18)
0.04056103   Central_European_Uralic_(Hungarian):Hungarian_(n=22)
0.04064944   Central_European_Germanic_(Southwest_German):German_Baden-Wurttemberg_(n=5)
0.04096227   Southeast_European_Torbeši_(North_Macedonia):Pomak_North_Macedonia_(n=2)
0.04410214   East_European_Slavic_(Rusyn_Ukraine):Rusyn_Ukraine_(n=1)
0.04589143   Southeast_European_Vallahades_(Greece):Greek_Western_Macedonia_Muslim_(Vallahas/Patriyot)_(n=4)
0.04604766   South_European_Romance_(Northeast_Italian):Italian_Veneto_(Venetian)_(n=21)
0.04797418   Southeast_European_Germanic_(Transylvanian_Saxon_Romania):Transylvanian_Saxon_(n=2)
0.04817573   West_European_Romance_(Occitan_Southeast_France):French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_Bouches-du-Rhone_Marseille_(n=13)
0.04890869   Southeast_European_Greek_(West_Greek):Greek_Western_Greece_Aetolia-Acarnania_(n=4)
0.04897049   Southeast_European_Albanian_(North_Macedonia):Albanian_Gheg_North_Macedonia_(n=5)
0.04938116   West_European_Romance_(East_French):French_Oil_Bourgogne-Franche-Comte_Doubs_(n=2)
0.04995330   Southeast_European_Greek_(Central_Greek_Thessaly):Greek_Thessaly_(n=12)
0.05132326   Central_European_Romance_(Swiss_French):Swiss_French_(n=8)
0.05151165   Central_European_Slavic_(Czech):Czech_(n=21)
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Браћа Румуни и последња добра репка у фудбалу, офарбана у плаво на СП 1998.