Аутор Тема: Словени, Старобалканци, Ромеји/Византинци Г25  (Прочитано 2762 пута)

Ван мреже Владимир Жуњанин

  • Почетник
  • **
  • Поруке: 27
  • Славиша-Добривоје-Миљко-Рајко-Јован-Смиљко-Мијајло
Одг: Словени, Старобалканци, Ромеји/Византинци Г25
« Одговор #20 послато: Децембар 22, 2025, 12:35:02 поподне »
Prvi kalkulator:
Target: kocovic_scaled
Distance: 1.4310% / 0.01430978
61.4   Rimljani_Ilirija(100-600)
24.4   Sloveni(540-1100)
13.8   Rimljani_Grčka(250-410)
0.4   Avari(330-550)

Distance to:   kocovic_scaled
0.03259855   Rimljani_Panonija(130-600)
0.03330531   Rimljani_Ilirija(100-600)
0.09140105   Rimljani_Anadolija(100BC-AD700)
0.09252482   Rimljani_Grčka(250-410)
0.10606573   Germani(100-630)


Drugi kalkulator:
Target: kocovic_scaled
Distance: 1.3921% / 0.01392067
75.4   Balkanci(500-1000)
23.4   Sloveni(540-1270)
1.0   Vizantinci_Anadolija(500-1100)
0.2   Mongoli(900-1300)


Distance to:   kocovic_scaled
0.03595188   Balkanci(500-1000)
0.08982858   Vizantinci_Anadolija(500-1100)
0.09648966   Kelti_Britanija(100-1000)
0.10701600   Germani(700-1000)
0.11120669   Sloveni(540-1270)

 
U drugom kalkulatoru su Balkanci samo zbir Rimljani sa Balkana? ???
Balkanci(500-1000) је просек за: HRV_Gardun, HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje, HRV_Omišalj-Mirine, HRV_Sipar, HRV_Trogir_Byz, HRV_Velic, ALB_MA, GRC_Marathon_Rom узорке.

Ван мреже Владимир Жуњанин

  • Почетник
  • **
  • Поруке: 27
  • Славиша-Добривоје-Миљко-Рајко-Јован-Смиљко-Мијајло
Одг: Словени, Старобалканци, Ромеји/Византинци Г25
« Одговор #21 послато: Децембар 22, 2025, 01:02:15 поподне »
Резултат за други калкулатор са свим узорцима које сам користио да направим просек компоненти.


Target: VladimirZunjanin_scaled
Distance: 1.3922% / 0.01392235
22.0   Slavic*(AD*540–1270):Slav*(Viking*Age):POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
20.0   Balkans*(AD*500–1000):Balkans:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2053__AD_468__Coverage_65.65%
15.4   Slavic*(AD*540–1270):Slav*(Kievan*Rus):RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
15.2   Byzantine*Anatolia*(AD*500–1100):Northwest*Anatolian:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I8367__AD_600__Coverage_45.31%
7.0   North*Caucasian*(AD*650–1160):Alan:RUS_Alan_MA:DA164__AD_1100__Coverage_57.58%
6.2   Balkans*(AD*500–1000):Balkans:ALB_MA:I13839__AD_936__Coverage_70.67%
4.4   Slavic*(AD*540–1270):Slav*(Avar*Period):HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
2.8   North*Caucasian*(AD*650–1160):Alan:RUS_Alan_MA:DA146__AD_650__Coverage_13.23%
2.4   Byzantine*Anatolia*(AD*500–1100):Northwest*Anatolian:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz:I14833__AD_550__Coverage_41.44%
2.4   Insular*Celt*(AD*100–1000):Roman*Britain:England_IA_EarlyMedieval:I14550__AD_100__Coverage_68.50%
2.0   Slavic*(AD*540–1270):Slav*(Viking*Age):DNK_Jutland_VA:VK340
0.2   Germanic*(AD*700–1000):Scandinavian*Viking*(Nordland):VK2020_NOR_North_VA:VK520___AD_950___Coverage_81.07%

Ван мреже Dime Dimeski

  • Помоћник
  • ****
  • Поруке: 137
  • Autochthonous to Macedonia
Одг: Словени, Старобалканци, Ромеји/Византинци Г25
« Одговор #22 послато: Децембар 26, 2025, 02:01:06 поподне »
Компоненте су као на мапи Olalde 2023 и референце које користи IllustrativeDNA али са правим координатама, не овим које сада користе и направио просек за сваку компоненту.

Rimljani_Anadolija(100 BC-AD 700),0.108860,0.151233,-0.032734,-0.066331,0.001834,-0.024866,-0.000846,-0.006803,-0.004884,0.021861,0.003774,0.003789,-0.008402,0.002874,-0.015613,-0.004535,0.004579,0.001328,0.004998,-0.006433,-0.003634,0.001627,-0.001016,-0.001002,-0.001557
Rimljani_Levant(50 BC-AD 700),0.084533,0.145153,-0.052872,-0.087339,-0.012269,-0.031849,-0.005327,-0.007907,0.006940,0.008808,0.005716,-0.008273,0.013518,-0.000936,-0.008306,0.010015,0.002303,-0.000600,0.001575,-0.000117,0.000116,0.005779,-0.005390,0.000851,-0.001174
Rimljani_Egipat,0.044675,0.149029,-0.047800,-0.112162,-0.000847,-0.051455,-0.016039,-0.004154,0.047092,0.006515,0.011611,-0.015773,0.033151,-0.003682,0.000678,-0.003580,-0.010496,0.000127,-0.004117,0.010505,0.005147,0.003648,-0.000986,0.004609,-0.002634
Germani(100-630),0.130396,0.130678,0.070657,0.062287,0.041731,0.021541,0.005330,0.009360,0.003141,-0.008026,-0.004456,0.003932,-0.007849,-0.005042,0.021748,0.006868,-0.006999,0.001890,0.004188,0.004622,0.008305,0.003344,0.000394,0.013076,0.000081
Rimljani_Panonija(130-600),0.122701,0.149486,0.030849,-0.001292,0.033729,-0.004351,-0.002162,0.001569,0.008631,0.019463,-0.002631,0.006834,-0.014390,-0.001156,-0.000325,-0.007292,-0.005763,0.000633,0.004274,-0.006378,-0.005740,0.002992,-0.001997,0.003085,0.000670
Rimljani_Ilirija(100-600),0.116732,0.150016,0.012529,-0.024117,0.024637,-0.009792,0.000849,0.000731,0.004920,0.024187,0.000289,0.006053,-0.012950,-0.001292,-0.008973,-0.007594,-0.002253,0.000542,0.004588,-0.005621,-0.005934,0.001669,-0.000507,0.002169,0.000273
Rimljani_Grčka(250-410),0.104717,0.146236,-0.02753,-0.065569,-0.000308,-0.023985,0.00188,-0.004846,-0.003068,0.005467,0.014615,0.001349,0.001338,0.001514,-0.009772,0.012066,0.024773,-0.008235,0.008296,-0.001751,-0.002745,-0.003462,0.003328,0.000361,-0.003473
Sloveni(540-1100),0.125490,0.131257,0.076273,0.067669,0.038392,0.029911,0.006698,0.013846,0.008027,-0.021413,-0.002598,-0.008168,0.015387,0.027525,-0.010926,-0.004939,0.004857,0.002059,0.006631,0.000875,-0.004835,-0.002195,0.009613,-0.004609,0.000689
Sarmati(50-450),0.112360,0.042798,0.038305,0.065661,-0.024400,0.024542,0.001712,0.002538,-0.027114,-0.035640,-0.002436,-0.002419,-0.000255,-0.025401,0.019427,0.013089,-0.005569,-0.000977,-0.004471,0.001375,-0.008841,0.006518,0.000739,0.005526,0.002070
Huni(300-450),0.052738,-0.313460,0.064613,-0.005922,-0.047086,-0.020545,0.006815,0.005231,0.006886,-0.004799,-0.030204,-0.003247,0.001338,-0.005229,0.005881,-0.000088,-0.001478,0.000971,0.001048,0.009963,-0.019133,-0.000824,-0.009777,0.003534,0.000519
Avari(330-550),0.039762,-0.385833,0.089629,-0.021576,-0.081492,-0.046352,0.017861,0.023876,0.009408,0.011785,-0.012807,0.000330,-0.002032,0.002624,0.004171,-0.000742,0.000504,-0.001934,0.003084,0.012748,-0.021329,-0.004757,-0.019005,-0.000474,-0.000519
Iranci,0.094046,0.113105,-0.069437,-0.031371,-0.047586,-0.003904,0.002556,-0.006202,-0.034692,-0.015923,0.003979,-0.000899,0.002825,-0.005522,0.002969,0.014071,-0.001613,-0.000428,-0.000204,-0.008035,0.002714,-0.001669,-0.000277,-0.002350,0.003353
Indijski_Potkontinent(690-990),0.044543,-0.066551,-0.147505,0.110057,-0.071562,0.060352,-0.001880,0.011553,0.039255,0.022415,-0.003507,-0.000320,0.000367,0.003349,-0.004868,-0.006258,-0.000009,0.000760,-0.000771,0.002434,0.001722,-0.000363,0.001799,0.002916,-0.004854


Target: VladimirZunjanin_scaled
Distance: 1.9549% / 0.01954855
49.2   Sloveni(540-1100)
31.6   Rimljani_Anadolija(100BC-AD700)
11.0   Rimljani_Ilirija(100-600)
4.2   Sarmati(50-450)
4.0   Rimljani_Panonija(130-600)


Distance to:   VladimirZunjanin_scaled
0.04893995   Rimljani_Panonija(130-600)
0.06203231   Rimljani_Ilirija(100-600)
0.08548597   Sloveni(540-1100)
0.08782281   Germani(100-630)
0.11545166   Rimljani_Grčka(250-410)
0.11632229   Rimljani_Anadolija(100BC-AD700)
0.14027248   Sarmati(50-450)
0.14644633   Iranci
0.15203418   Rimljani_Levant(50BC-AD700)
0.19484512   Rimljani_Egipat
0.32279551   Indijski_Potkontinent(690-990)
0.46649956   Huni(300-450)
0.54926170   Avari(330-550)
Target: Dime_Kichevo_Macedonian_Puke_Albanian_Simulated
Distance: 1.1882% / 0.01188196
34.6   Rimljani_Panonija(130-600)
22.0   Rimljani_Ilirija(100-600)
20.8   Sloveni(540-1100)
15.8   Rimljani_Grčka(250-410)
6.8   Rimljani_Anadolija(100BC-AD700)

Distance to:   Dime_Kichevo_Macedonian_Puke_Albanian_Simulated
0.02818503   Rimljani_Panonija(130-600)
0.03183773   Rimljani_Ilirija(100-600)
0.09166234   Rimljani_Anadolija(100BC-AD700)
0.09302839   Rimljani_Grčka(250-410)
0.10269735   Germani(100-630)
0.11112311   Sloveni(540-1100)
0.13078555   Rimljani_Levant(50BC-AD700)
0.14045337   Iranci
0.15983579   Sarmati(50-450)
0.17495279   Rimljani_Egipat
0.33186245   Indijski_Potkontinent(690-990)
0.47765082   Huni(300-450)
0.55939473   Avari(330-550)
Μακεδόνας

Ван мреже Dime Dimeski

  • Помоћник
  • ****
  • Поруке: 137
  • Autochthonous to Macedonia
Одг: Словени, Старобалканци, Ромеји/Византинци Г25
« Одговор #23 послато: Децембар 26, 2025, 02:02:43 поподне »
Просек координата које је користио IllustrativeDNA док су радили са правим координатама.Sloveni,0.127482,0.127618,0.075298,0.066359,0.042230,0.026805,0.008356,0.012743,0.003181,-0.022577,-0.001479,-0.008226,0.014916,0.024741,-0.011808,-0.005804,0.003390,-0.000183,0.003701,0.001237,-0.003466,-0.003655,0.008367,-0.005998,0.001118
Starobalkanci,0.115847,0.148324,0.006935,-0.029142,0.020585,-0.011311,-0.000078,-0.000731,0.003250,0.020309,0.000659,0.005820,-0.012074,-0.000397,-0.009500,-0.001156,0.006237,-0.001415,0.003869,-0.005357,-0.006627,0.000879,-0.001253,0.000495,-0.000020
Romeji/Vizantinci,0.107327,0.148391,-0.032386,-0.063536,-0.001771,-0.022998,0.000069,-0.005251,-0.007243,0.018526,0.004357,0.003279,-0.006197,0.003467,-0.014102,-0.003127,0.005578,0.000556,0.004767,-0.004810,-0.003071,0.002467,-0.001792,-0.000652,-0.001580

Код већине Срба, Старобалканци на другом месту, код мене Ромеји/Византинци

Target: VladimirZunjanin_scaled
Distance: 2.0582% / 0.02058198
52.6   Sloveni
28.8   Romeji/Vizantinci
18.6   Starobalkanci

Distance to:   VladimirZunjanin_scaled
0.06563410   Starobalkanci
0.08408505   Sloveni
0.11353468   Romeji/Vizantinci


Target: Serb_Montenegro_(n=9)
Distance: 1.6652% / 0.01665200
56.8   Starobalkanci
42.8   Sloveni
0.4   Romeji/Vizantinci


Distance to:   Serb_Montenegro_(n=9)
0.06286118   Starobalkanci
0.08312625   Sloveni
0.11544898   Romeji/Vizantinci


Target: Serb_Herzegovina_(n=1)
Distance: 2.3070% / 0.02306967
51.2   Sloveni
48.8   Starobalkanci


Distance to:   Serb_Herzegovina_(n=1)
0.07315946   Sloveni
0.07620556   Starobalkanci
0.12937919   Romeji/Vizantinci

Target: Serb_Serbia_Rasina_(n=1)
Distance: 2.6097% / 0.02609698
55.0   Sloveni
45.0   Starobalkanci


Distance to:   Serb_Serbia_Rasina_(n=1)
0.06900892   Sloveni
0.08241370   Starobalkanci
0.13459469   Romeji/Vizantinci


Target: Serb_(n=18)
Distance: 1.2547% / 0.01254666
49.6   Sloveni
46.0   Starobalkanci
4.4   Romeji/Vizantinci


Distance to:   Serb_(n=18)
0.06945906   Starobalkanci
0.07483076   Sloveni
0.12170951   Romeji/Vizantinci
Target: Dime_Kichevo_Macedonian_Puke_Albanian_Simulated
Distance: 1.1614% / 0.01161413
76.8   Starobalkanci
23.2   Sloveni

Distance to:   Dime_Kichevo_Macedonian_Puke_Albanian_Simulated
0.03501035   Starobalkanci
0.09006934   Romeji/Vizantinci
0.10964573   Sloveni
Μακεδόνας

Ван мреже Dime Dimeski

  • Помоћник
  • ****
  • Поруке: 137
  • Autochthonous to Macedonia
Одг: Словени, Старобалканци, Ромеји/Византинци Г25
« Одговор #24 послато: Децембар 26, 2025, 02:04:49 поподне »
Још један калкулатор, направио просек за сваку компоненту.
Balkanci(500-1000),0.115847,0.148324,0.006935,-0.029142,0.020585,-0.011311,-0.000078,-0.000731,0.003250,0.020309,0.000659,0.005820,-0.012074,-0.000397,-0.009500,-0.001156,0.006237,-0.001415,0.003869,-0.005357,-0.006627,0.000879,-0.001253,0.000495,-0.000020
Vizantinci_Anadolija(500-1100),0.107327,0.148391,-0.032386,-0.063536,-0.001771,-0.022998,0.000069,-0.005251,-0.007243,0.018526,0.004357,0.003279,-0.006197,0.003467,-0.014102,-0.003127,0.005578,0.000556,0.004767,-0.004810,-0.003071,0.002467,-0.001792,-0.000652,-0.001580
Sloveni(540-1270),0.125490,0.131257,0.076273,0.067669,0.038392,0.029911,0.006698,0.013846,0.008027,-0.021413,-0.002598,-0.008168,0.015387,0.027525,-0.010926,-0.004939,0.004857,0.002059,0.006631,0.000875,-0.004835,-0.002195,0.009613,-0.004609,0.000689
Kelti_Britanija(100-1000),0.127861,0.135404,0.061219,0.051213,0.037101,0.019089,0.001998,0.006487,0.004022,0.002612,-0.004773,0.007302,-0.014882,-0.015429,0.027008,0.002976,-0.012640,0.001745,0.002290,0.006288,0.005275,0.004877,-0.002301,0.010436,0.001590
Germani(700-1000),0.127828,0.127074,0.070882,0.062831,0.042831,0.023572,0.004700,0.008628,0.002517,-0.007400,-0.003791,0.002952,-0.007091,-0.005625,0.020488,0.007045,-0.006735,0.003156,0.004935,0.006927,0.007731,0.003215,0.000295,0.013674,0.002166
Mađari,0.090062,-0.117294,0.079902,0.048087,-0.056703,-0.010284,0.005170,0.007961,-0.010584,-0.027358,0.021273,-0.004946,0.007954,-0.041390,-0.008143,-0.001956,-0.004563,0.000491,-0.000173,-0.006737,-0.007939,0.006955,0.002311,0.000362,-0.002081
Mongoli(900-1300),0.043822,-0.356832,0.065053,-0.023458,-0.053587,-0.030765,0.014865,0.018677,0.001342,0.009579,-0.032062,-0.001124,-0.001217,0.002572,0.003020,0.002486,0.000668,-0.000982,0.004800,0.011974,-0.015145,-0.007999,-0.018495,-0.002033,-0.000891
Severni_Kavkaz(650-1160),0.109839,0.096983,-0.023476,-0.012234,-0.028390,0.002684,0.005934,-0.006058,-0.047322,-0.021777,0.000223,0.009479,-0.015535,-0.003286,0.003105,-0.003812,0.011246,-0.005353,-0.005814,0.004909,0.003338,0.002844,-0.000370,-0.001626,-0.001407
Levantinci(300-1300),0.084554,0.147252,-0.051962,-0.086126,-0.010727,-0.030738,-0.005741,-0.009395,0.005230,0.009385,0.004953,-0.007761,0.011776,-0.001071,-0.007882,0.006809,-0.000875,0.000145,0.001706,-0.002189,-0.001221,0.005776,-0.005925,0.001609,-0.000171
Egipćani,0.018907,0.143877,-0.047355,-0.106851,0.001721,-0.043828,-0.013622,-0.003621,0.048442,-0.001236,0.007345,-0.011614,0.030290,0.003766,-0.002229,0.001464,-0.003436,-0.001667,-0.004441,0.006000,-0.000407,0.001338,0.001985,0.004142,-0.003493
Iranci,0.094046,0.113105,-0.069437,-0.031371,-0.047586,-0.003904,0.002556,-0.006202,-0.034692,-0.015923,0.003979,-0.000899,0.002825,-0.005522,0.002969,0.014071,-0.001613,-0.000428,-0.000204,-0.008035,0.002714,-0.001669,-0.000277,-0.002350,0.003353
Severni_Pakistan(300 BC-AD 1350),0.065150,-0.028435,-0.104498,0.072091,-0.079517,0.039151,0.003145,0.005439,-0.004909,-0.004452,-0.003619,0.001427,-0.002740,-0.004646,0.009119,0.009988,0.000180,-0.002051,-0.001269,-0.008409,-0.000285,-0.002750,0.000675,-0.003276,0.001768
Indijski_Potkontinent(690-990),0.044543,-0.066551,-0.147505,0.110057,-0.071562,0.060352,-0.001880,0.011553,0.039255,0.022415,-0.003507,-0.000320,0.000367,0.003349,-0.004868,-0.006258,-0.000009,0.000760,-0.000771,0.002434,0.001722,-0.000363,0.001799,0.002916,-0.004854
Turci(650-1200),0.069344,-0.159438,0.034971,0.010001,-0.045813,-0.005455,0.006119,0.006381,-0.014899,-0.011779,-0.016220,-0.001925,0.000260,-0.011693,0.008843,0.004536,-0.005709,0.001954,0.003515,0.001255,-0.015089,0.000181,-0.004757,-0.001893,-0.002133


Target: VladimirZunjanin_scaled
Distance: 2.0167% / 0.02016667
49.0   Sloveni(540-1270)
25.6   Balkanci(500-1000)
20.0   Vizantinci_Anadolija(500-1100)
5.4   Severni_Kavkaz(650-1160)


Distance to:   VladimirZunjanin_scaled
0.06563410   Balkanci(500-1000)
0.08302511   Kelti_Britanija(100-1000)
0.08548597   Sloveni(540-1270)
0.08888785   Germani(700-1000)
0.11091431   Severni_Kavkaz(650-1160)
0.11353468   Vizantinci_Anadolija(500-1100)
0.14644633   Iranci
0.14977374   Levantinci(300-1300)
0.19832281   Egipćani
0.25675716   Severni_Pakistan(300BC-AD1350)
0.28423162   Mađari
0.31311321   Turci(650-1200)
0.32279551   Indijski_Potkontinent(690-990)
0.51316538   Mongoli(900-1300)
Target: Dime_Kichevo_Macedonian_Puke_Albanian_Simulated
Distance: 1.1773% / 0.01177328
76.4   Balkanci(500-1000)
21.8   Sloveni(540-1270)
1.8   Kelti_Britanija(100-1000)

Distance to:   Dime_Kichevo_Macedonian_Puke_Albanian_Simulated
0.03501035   Balkanci(500-1000)
0.09006934   Vizantinci_Anadolija(500-1100)
0.09172948   Kelti_Britanija(100-1000)
0.10419521   Germani(700-1000)
0.11112311   Sloveni(540-1270)
0.11248122   Severni_Kavkaz(650-1160)
0.12846979   Levantinci(300-1300)
0.14045337   Iranci
0.18127393   Egipćani
0.26634643   Severni_Pakistan(300BC-AD1350)
0.29943965   Mađari
0.32495480   Turci(650-1200)
0.33186245   Indijski_Potkontinent(690-990)
0.52300882   Mongoli(900-1300)
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Ван мреже OneLove

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« Одговор #25 послато: Мај 17, 2026, 04:04:37 поподне »
Distance: 2.6847% / 0.02684689
59.0   Balkanci(500-1000)
41.0   Sloveni(540-1270)

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« Одговор #26 послато: Мај 17, 2026, 05:49:50 поподне »
Убацио сам у групу Озринића (којима су родитељи из данашње Црне Горе) и једног "изгоја", Молдавца, пореклом, по оцу, из Пољске, по мајци-из Молдавије (D.C) који је I-S20602 (вероватно Динарик северни, није урадио BIG Y), и калкулатори су га без грешке идентификовали.







 
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