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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #20 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:13:01 пре подне »
Ovo je moj model. Hungary Avar 5 bi trebalo da je čisti proto-Sloven, a Croatia_Medieval rimska/vizantijska populacija taman u vrijeme dolaska Slovena.



Hungary_Avar_5,0.130897,0.13405,0.064488,0.051034,0.038776,0.028168,0.010105,0.008769,0.00634,-0.014214,0.001786,-0.009292,0.005203,0.018029,-0.012351,0.00411,0.000261,-0.000507,0.00088,0.003752,-0.000499,-0.000866,0.00986,-0.004097,0.003712
Croatia_Medieval,0.113823,0.1459822,0.0032998,-0.0276972,0.0238508,-0.0135958,0.0017038,0.0023075,0.0009205,0.0190435,0.0003248,0.0075308,-0.012562,-0.004163,-0.0074985,0.010972,0.0166565,-0.0024705,0.003048,-0.0015008,-0.0042738,0.0017,0.000462,0.0028617,-0.0017962
Turkey_EarlyByzantine_1,0.1129692,0.1436975,-0.006505,-0.0369028,0.0123098,-0.0113648,0.0066975,-0.0012693,-0.005778,0.0094762,0.001908,0.0030345,-0.0028248,0.0054018,-0.005904,-0.0092812,-0.003683,0.0038322,0.006285,-0.0073158,0.0002182,-0.003184,0.000647,-0.0017773,-0.001407




Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.9964% / 0.02996390
66.8   Hungary_Avar_5
33.2   Turkey_EarlyByzantine_1



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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #21 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:40:55 пре подне »
Target: IvicaJovanovic_scaled
Distance: 2.1499% / 0.02149946
49.0   Hungary_Avar_5
35.6   Croatia_Medieval
15.4   Turkey_EarlyByzantine_1

Rimljani 51%, Sloveni 49%. Odakle mi to Sloveni 49%, ako sam J2a po ocu i E-V13 po ujčevini, it's a mystery.
Милутин Бранковић, 4. ескадрон Коњичке дивизије. Крф 26.04.1916.
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Сима Мијуцић, 9. пешадијски пук. Браунау 1917.

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #22 послато: Август 31, 2023, 11:07:01 пре подне »
Target: IvicaJovanovic_scaled
Distance: 2.1499% / 0.02149946
49.0   Hungary_Avar_5
35.6   Croatia_Medieval
15.4   Turkey_EarlyByzantine_1

Rimljani 51%, Sloveni 49%. Odakle mi to Sloveni 49%, ako sam J2a po ocu i E-V13 po ujčevini, it's a mystery.
Има у рубрици аутосомална генетика доста тема где су чланови избацивали резултате и показало се да не мора да има везе Y линија у уделу словенске или старобалканске генетике. Неко ко по разним линијама (очева линија, ујчевина) носи старобалканске генетику, може да има преко 60% словенске генетике, а неко ко носи словенску генетику у Y линији, може да има испод 50% словенске генетике аутосомално. У укупној генетици, линија твог оца и ујака су само две од много грана. Има занимљивих резултата на тим темама, напр. НикПав који по разним линијама има старобалканску генетику, готово да је у врху по уделу словенске генетике, међу форумашима (близу 65% чини ми се). То ми је било занимљиво тада за њега, па сам запамтио (код мене је чини ми се однос 55% словенске, 40% старобалканске, 3% германске и осталих 2% остало)
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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #23 послато: Август 31, 2023, 12:28:04 поподне »
Target: IvicaJovanovic_scaled
Distance: 2.1499% / 0.02149946
49.0   Hungary_Avar_5
35.6   Croatia_Medieval
15.4   Turkey_EarlyByzantine_1

Rimljani 51%, Sloveni 49%. Odakle mi to Sloveni 49%, ako sam J2a po ocu i E-V13 po ujčevini, it's a mystery.

Ajmo Sloveni  8)

Distance: 2.4129% / 0.02412929
51.2   Croatia_Medieval
48.8   Hungary_Avar_5

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #24 послато: Август 31, 2023, 12:29:57 поподне »
Jasno da nema, samo mi je zanimljivo to što je procenat tako visok s obzirom na populaciju iz koje dolazim.
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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #25 послато: Август 31, 2023, 01:12:25 поподне »

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #26 послато: Август 31, 2023, 02:47:31 поподне »
Ajmo Sloveni  8)

Distance: 2.4129% / 0.02412929
51.2   Croatia_Medieval
48.8   Hungary_Avar_5

Distance: 3.0666% / 0.03066568
46.0   Croatia_Medieval
29.8   Hungary_Avar_5
24.2   Turkey_EarlyByzantine_1

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #27 послато: Август 31, 2023, 08:26:40 поподне »
Distance: 3.0666% / 0.03066568
46.0   Croatia_Medieval
29.8   Hungary_Avar_5
24.2   Turkey_EarlyByzantine_1
kako tako malo sloven?

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #28 послато: Август 31, 2023, 09:28:27 поподне »
kako tako malo sloven?

Nemam pojma, uglavnom su mi preci poreklom Makedonci iz okoline Ohrida, neki su Srbi, i imam jednu prababu (ili cukunbabu) za koju ne znam tacno poreklo

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« Одговор #29 послато: Август 31, 2023, 09:42:52 поподне »
Nemam pojma, uglavnom su mi preci poreklom Makedonci iz okoline Ohrida, neki su Srbi, i imam jednu prababu (ili cukunbabu) za koju ne znam tacno poreklo
znam da ide ono sto juznije to manje slovenske genetike, ali 30% je bas malo  ;D
si probao moje uzorke sa prve strane?

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #30 послато: Август 31, 2023, 09:46:30 поподне »
 ;D Zato si ti jači Rimljanin od Rimljana. Trougao Ohrid - Janjina - Saranda.
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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #31 послато: Август 31, 2023, 09:58:38 поподне »
znam da ide ono sto juznije to manje slovenske genetike, ali 30% je bas malo  ;D
si probao moje uzorke sa prve strane?

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Germanic:Longobard:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ2__AD_508__Coverage_99.69%,0.124067,0.139128,0.073161,0.070737,0.043085,0.020359,0.007755,0.007846,0.002045,-0.015308,-0.002273,0.001798,-0.010406,-0.001239,0.020358,-0.003713,-0.024903,0.009248,0.00993,-0.009004,0.012228,0.00272,0.005546,0.010122,0.002275
Germanic:Longobard:HRV_Scitarjevo:R3660__AD_497__Coverage_49.88%,0.136588,0.135065,0.065619,0.057817,0.047393,0.017291,0.015276,0.011538,-0.007158,-0.006014,-0.003735,0.002847,0.00669,-0.002202,0.025651,0.009812,-0.014733,-0.000507,0.006159,0.004877,0.008984,-0.002349,0.000246,0.021087,0.003592

Roman_Illyria:SRB_Viminacium:R9669,0.117238,0.144205,0.017725,-0.012274,0.028928,-0.001116,0,0.009,0.001432,0.021868,0.005196,0.008243,-0.012785,-0.005643,-0.011672,0.001724,0.004172,0.005954,0.00905,-0.005753,-0.013851,0.013354,-0.002218,0.00964,0.007784
Roman_Illyria:HRV_Gardun:R3544,0.114961,0.145221,0.017725,-0.026163,0.023081,-0.012829,0.00705,0.001385,0.007363,0.024784,0.001624,0.010341,-0.013974,0.001101,-0.007872,-0.005436,-0.001825,-0.00266,0.002263,-0.004127,0.004367,0.000742,-0.009737,-0.003253,0.002634
Roman_Greece:GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833__AD_340__Coverage_80.92%,0.104717,0.146236,-0.02753,-0.065569,-0.000308,-0.023985,0.00188,-0.004846,-0.003068,0.005467,0.014615,0.001349,0.001338,0.001514,-0.009772,0.012066,0.024773,-0.008235,0.008296,-0.001751,-0.002745,-0.003462,0.003328,0.000361,-0.003473

Bulgars,0.0875794,-0.1186851,0.0703279,0.0462278,-0.0457662,0.0004012,0.0045986,0.0057238,-0.0131025,-0.0242801,-0.0069555,-0.0011277,0.0023117,-0.0157495,0.0150784,0.0012691,-0.0115338,0.0004507,0.0022112,0.0068453,-0.0173337,0.0021481,-0.0009199,0.004288,-0.0040285
Magyars:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:TCS2,0.097888,-0.113739,0.076933,0.044251,-0.050471,-0.01757,0.004465,0.001385,-0.014521,-0.028611,0.018999,-0.003897,0.01115,-0.03592,-0.008822,0.006762,-0.003651,-0.000507,-0.002514,-0.01113,-0.002995,0.003586,0,0.00241,-0.007784
Avars,0.0115,0.0132,0.0171,0.0158,0.0126,0.0101,0.0043,0.0038,0.0031,-0.0078,0.0011,-0.0062,0.0035,0.0131,-0.0091,0.0031,0.0002,-0.0004,0.0007,0.003,-0.0004,-0.0007,0.008,-0.0034,0.0031

Slavic_Tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.135449,0.128972,0.080704,0.063954,0.034776,0.034025,0.006815,0.007615,0.009613,-0.02041,-0.001461,-0.005245,0.010852,0.026561,-0.014658,-0.002254,0.002347,0.001267,0.01081,-0.001751,0.001622,-0.002844,0.009613,-0.008314,0.005389
Slavic_Tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic_Tribes:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #32 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:00:46 поподне »
;D Zato si ti jači Rimljanin od Rimljana. Trougao Ohrid - Janjina - Saranda.
isprobaj uzorke sto sam stavio, vidi prvu stranu
moj slovenski brate

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #33 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:00:55 поподне »
Distance:
0.04145189   Roman_Illyria:HRV_Gardun:R3544
0.04747930   Roman_Illyria:SRB_Viminacium:R9669
0.09568040   Roman_Greece:GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833__AD_340__Coverage_80.92%
0.10403016   Slavic_Tribes:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.10908325   Germanic:Longobard:HRV_Scitarjevo:R3660__AD_497__Coverage_49.88%
0.11446039   Slavic_Tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.11553514   Germanic:Longobard:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ2__AD_508__Coverage_99.69%
0.12238257   Slavic_Tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.15560795   Avars
0.27309583   Magyars:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:TCS2
0.27390779   Bulgars


Distance: 2.0349% / 0.02034855
59.8   Roman_Illyria
19.8   Slavic_Tribes
10.2   Avars
9.6   Roman_Greece
0.6   Germanic


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« Одговор #34 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:08:19 поподне »
;D Zato si ti jači Rimljanin od Rimljana. Trougao Ohrid - Janjina - Saranda.

Ono što znam, nemam pretke koji su živeli južnije od Struško-Ohridske oblasti, bar gledajući od danas do početka 18. veka

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Одг: udjeli drevnih populacija u današnjim populacijama Balkana
« Одговор #35 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:09:58 поподне »
Ovo:



Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0451% / 0.02045054
56.8   Slavic_Tribes
43.2   Roman_Illyria

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« Одговор #36 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:11:06 поподне »

Distance: 2.0349% / 0.02034855
59.8   Roman_Illyria
19.8   Slavic_Tribes
10.2   Avars
9.6   Roman_Greece
0.6   Germanic

10% Авара?  ???

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« Одговор #37 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:24:45 поподне »
10% Авара?  ???

Nije greška. Jedino što može da bude greška je ako nisam dobro transformisao iz DodecadV3 u G25


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« Одговор #38 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:26:50 поподне »
Nije greška. Jedino što može da bude greška je ako nisam dobro transformisao iz DodecadV3 u G25

Мој савет вам је да набавите праве координате преко Illustrative DNA.

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« Одговор #39 послато: Август 31, 2023, 10:30:01 поподне »
zanimljivo....distance su vam solidne

evo mojih.. Roman Greece anyone?

Distance: 2.6688% / 0.02668842
43.4   Slavic_Tribes
28.6   Roman_Illyria
25.4   Roman_Greece
2.6   Germanic


0.05625743   Roman_Illyria:SRB_Viminacium:R9669
0.06784518   Roman_Illyria:HRV_Gardun:R3544
0.08281981   Slavic_Tribes:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.08919982   Slavic_Tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.09003423   Germanic:Longobard:HRV_Scitarjevo:R3660__AD_497__Coverage_49.88%
0.09741677   Slavic_Tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.10170161   Germanic:Longobard:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ2__AD_508__Coverage_99.69%
0.11415389   Roman_Greece:GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833__AD_340__Coverage_80.92%
0.18477658   Avars
0.28975710   Magyars:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:TCS2
0.29132680   Bulgars