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Муњени Ћелић:
Да ли постоје резултати за врло малу мађарску популацију звану Чангоши? Живе на граници Румуније и Молдавије. Иначе, у крају у којем живим, Чангош је погрдан назив за све Мађаре, али сам и лично присуствовао свађи двојице Мађара, где је један вређао другог разним псовкама, па и ''епитетом'' Чангош. После ми је објашњено да су ''прави'' Мађари, високи, крупни, светлије косе и очију, а Чангоши ниски, црни и да ''нису прави Мађари''. Додуше, ја сам управо супротног мишљења, па ме занима да ли има неких података и за те Чанге (Csangos, Csángok).

Kor:
Колико сам ја упознат, за сада нема ништа од тога питање је да ли ће и убудуће да их буде. Не мислим да је у интересу Мађарима да долазе до таквих података.

Bozidar Stevana Ostojic:

Major studies of Hungarians
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/hungarians.html

A. Z. Bíró, A. Zalán, A. Völgyi, and H. Pamjav. "A Y-chromosomal comparison of the Madjars (Kazakhstan) and the Magyars (Hungary)." American Journal of Physical Anthropology 139:3 (July 2009): pages 305-310. Some of the lineages within Y-DNA haplogroup G are shared between the Madjar people of Kazakhstan and the Magyar people of Hungary. (Mirror)
Abstract:
"The Madjars are a previously unstudied population from Kazakhstan who practice a form of local exogamy in which wives are brought in from neighboring tribes, but husbands are not, so the paternal lineages remain genetically isolated within the population. Their name bears a striking resemblance to the Magyars who have inhabited Hungary for over a millennium, but whose previous history is poorly understood. We have now carried out a genetic analysis of the population structure and relationships of the Madjars, and in particular have sought to test whether or not they show a genetic link with the Magyars. We concentrated on paternal lineages because of their isolation within the Madjars and sampled males representing all extant male lineages unrelated for more than eight generations (n = 45) in the Torgay area of Kazakhstan. The Madjars show evidence of extensive genetic drift, with 24/45 carrying the same 12-STR haplotype within haplogroup G. Genetic distances based on haplogroup frequencies were used to compare the Madjars with 37 other populations and showed that they were closest to the Hungarian population rather than their geographical neighbors. Although this finding could result from chance, it is striking and suggests that there could have been genetic contact between the ancestors of the Madjars and Magyars, and thus that modern Hungarians may trace their ancestry to Central Asia, instead of the Eastern Uralic region as previously thought."

B. Csányi, E. Bogácsi-Szabó, Gy. Tömöry, Á. Czibula, K. Priskin, A. CsŐsz, B. Mende, P. Langó, K. Csete, A. Zsolnai, E. K. Conant, C. S. Downes, and I. Raskó. "Y-Chromosome Analysis of Ancient Hungarian and Two Modern Hungarian-Speaking Populations from the Carpathian Basin." Annals of Human Genetics 72:4 (July 2008): pages 519-534. 100 Hungarian people from Hungary and 97 Hungarian-speaking Szekler people from Transylvania in present-day Romania were genetically tested. DNA was also successfully sampled from the skeletons of 4 Hungarians who lived in the 10th century. Two of the skeletons that were anthropologically Caucasoid-Mongoloid hybrids carried the Y-DNA haplogroup N3 (later ramed N1c) while one of them carried the Caucasoid mtDNA haplogroup H. This, along with the evidence from modern-day Hungarians, shows that the Magyar invaders had intermarried with local European tribes, greatly watering down Mongoloid genetic and physical traits among those who continued to speak the Hungarian language.
Summary:
"The Hungarian population belongs linguistically to the Finno-Ugric branch of the Uralic family. The Tat C allele is an interesting marker in the Finno-Ugric context, distributed in all the Finno-Ugric-speaking populations, except for Hungarians. This question arises whether the ancestral Hungarians, who settled in the Carpathian Basin, harbored this polymorphism or not. 100 men from modern Hungary, 97 Szeklers (a Hungarian-speaking population from Transylvania), and 4 archaeologically Hungarian bone samples from the 10th century were studied for this polymorphism. Among the modern individuals, only one Szekler carries the Tat C allele, whereas out of the four skeletal remains, two possess the allele. The latter finding, even allowing for the low sample number, appears to indicate a Siberian lineage of the invading Hungarians, which later has largely disappeared. The two modern Hungarian-speaking populations, based on 22 Y-chromosomal binary markers, share similar components described for other Europeans, except for the presence of the haplogroup P*(xM173) in Szekler samples, which may reflect a Central Asian connection, and high frequency of haplogroup J in both Szeklers and Hungarians. MDS analysis based on haplogroup frequency values, confirms that modern Hungarian and Szekler populations are genetically closely related, and similar to populations from Central Europe and the Balkans."

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2008.00440.x/full
Y-Chromosome Analysis of Ancient Hungarian and Two Modern Hungarian-Speaking Populations from the Carpathian Basin - B. Csányi1,*, E. Bogácsi-Szabó1, Gy. Tömöry2, Á. Czibula1, K. Priskin1, A. Csõsz2, B. Mende2, P. Langó2, K. Csete3, A. Zsolnai4, E. K. Conant5, C. S. Downes5, I. Raskó1

Синиша Јерковић:
Ja sam i prije na forumima spominjao ovu vezu Mađara i Madjara u Kazahstanu. Interesantno je da haplogrupe G1 (koja je karakteristična za Madjare iz Kazahstana) nema u ovim studijama vezanim za Mađare. Ali je ima kod čak troje na Srpskom DNK Projektu od kojih bi dvoje mogli da budu originalno mađarskog porijekla. Mada je većina pripadnika G1b haplogrupe prije svega jevrejskog aškenaskog porijekla.

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