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ДушанВучко:
Jaxa of Köpenick (sometimes Jaksa or Jacza of Copnic, Polish: Jaksa z Kopnika or Jaksa z Kopanicy, Jaksa being an early Sorbian and/or Polish form of James) (fl. 1151-1157) was a prince of the West Slavic Sprevan Duchy of Kopanica. He was an opponent of Albert the Bear during the formation of Brandenburg in 1157
Jaxa, a prince of the Slavic Sprevani in Köpenick (present day borough of Berlin) was probably a relative of the Hevelli (Stodoran) prince Pribislav and as a result had a claim to rule over the Stodrans after Pribislav's death.
The exact identity of Jaxa of Köpenick, the leader of the Slavic revolt, has been subject of dispute, partly because there might have been several individuals with the unusual name "Jaxa" (or its variants) alive at the time.
According to British historian Norman Davies Jaxa was most likely a Sorb or Lutician.
Jaksa_z_Kopanicy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaxa_of_K%C3%B6penick
kanimir:
Autosomalno poklapanje jednog Srbina, s jednog stranog foruma.
Y-Dna haplogroup - R1a
mt-dna - U5
Čovjek se preziva Thieme, Svi preci od 17. vijeka na dalje su mu iz okoline Jene:
ovo područje je germanizovano između 8. i 12 vijeka.
učestalost prezimena Thieme prema popisu iz 1890:
--- Код: ---Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.38
2 North_Atlantic 33.73
3 West_Med 8.85
4 West_Asian 8.81
5 East_Med 8.33
6 Oceanian 1.17
7 Red_Sea 0.92
8 Siberian 0.51
9 South_Asian 0.17
10 Amerindian 0.11
11 Northeast_African 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 6.15
2 Hungarian 6.79
3 Croatian 7.98
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.15
5 East_German 8.32
6 Ukrainian 8.96
7 Austrian 9.2
8 Polish 9.41
9 Moldavian 10.69
10 Southwest_Russian 11.54
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.59
12 Southwest_Finnish 11.99
13 Russian_Smolensk 12.01
14 Belorussian 12.56
15 North_Swedish 12.61
16 Estonian_Polish 12.88
17 Serbian 13.96
18 Finnish 14.66
19 Estonian 15.08
20 North_German 15.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
[b]1 59.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.8% West_German @ 2.83[/b]
2 59.5% Southwest_Russian + 40.5% West_German @ 3.28
3 61.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 38.8% South_Dutch @ 3.31
4 56.5% Austrian + 43.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.5
5 64.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.4% Southeast_English @ 3.73
6 56.5% Austrian + 43.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.74
7 57.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.5% North_German @ 3.76
8 61.5% Southwest_Russian + 38.5% South_Dutch @ 3.76
9 57.6% Southwest_Russian + 42.4% North_German @ 3.83
10 77.3% South_Polish + 22.7% West_German @ 3.92
11 68.3% Hungarian + 31.7% Belorussian @ 3.95
12 74.9% Hungarian + 25.1% Lithuanian @ 3.95
13 72.5% Hungarian + 27.5% Estonian @ 3.95
14 75.9% South_Polish + 24.1% North_German @ 3.97
15 66.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33.5% French @ 4.02
16 54.1% South_Polish + 45.9% Hungarian @ 4.04
17 67.5% Hungarian + 32.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.07
18 58.7% Russian_Smolensk + 41.3% West_German @ 4.09
19 72.2% Hungarian + 27.8% Finnish @ 4.1
20 64.3% South_Polish + 35.7% Austrian @ 4.12
--- Крај кода ---
--- Код: ---Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 25.95
2 Baltic 21.11
3 Atlantic 19.61
4 Eastern_Euro 15.63
5 West_Asian 7.24
6 West_Med 5.2
7 East_Med 3.77
8 Oceanian 0.87
9 Red_Sea 0.63
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.34
2 East_German 6.48
3 South_Polish 7.58
4 Austrian 7.89
5 Southwest_Finnish 8.47
6 Croatian 8.56
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.71
8 Polish 9.1
9 Ukrainian 9.14
10 Finnish 9.84
11 Moldavian 10.4
12 Russian_Smolensk 11.58
13 North_Swedish 12.12
14 Estonian 12.18
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.41
16 Southwest_Russian 12.42
17 North_German 12.53
18 Serbian 12.83
19 East_Finnish 12.92
20 Belorussian 13.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.7% North_German @ 2.57
2 56% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44% North_Dutch @ 2.85
3 54.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 45.5% West_German @ 2.87
4 61.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 38.4% Orcadian @ 2.92
5 58.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.3% Southeast_English @ 2.96
6 50.2% Southwest_Russian + 49.8% North_German @ 3.05
7 63.7% South_Polish + 36.3% North_German @ 3.09
8 55.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.5% Danish @ 3.09
9 54.5% Southwest_Russian + 45.5% West_German @ 3.1
10 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Southwest_English @ 3.17
11 59.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.4% West_Scottish @ 3.28
12 58.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.1% Irish @ 3.28
13 60% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40% North_German @ 3.33
14 56.5% Russian_Smolensk + 43.5% West_German @ 3.35
15 68.8% South_Polish + 31.2% Danish @ 3.41
16 69.4% South_Polish + 30.6% North_Dutch @ 3.51
17 74.1% South_Polish + 25.9% Orcadian @ 3.51
18 56.1% Southwest_Russian + 43.9% North_Dutch @ 3.51
19 58.8% Ukrainian + 41.2% North_German @ 3.52
20 54% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46% South_Dutch @ 3.56
--- Крај кода ---
--- Код: ---Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.28 Pct
Armenian 0.20 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.64 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.32 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.73 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 12.20 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.70 Pct
French 4.49 Pct
Iberian 2.63 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.14 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.06 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 13.31 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.06 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.80 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.43 Pct
West_Med -
--- Крај кода ---
Небо_Сав:
Разговор Ратка Дмитровића и Божидара Зечевића на тему: Лужички Срби.
Набасах случајно на јутјубу, наравно не због Дмитровића, Винчанца, него због интересатних података које износи Божидар Зечевић (филмски критичар, Фулбрајтов стипендиста, некадашњи уредник документарног програма на РТС-у). У једном тренутку Дмитровић покушава да направи копчу са Винчанцима, коју Зечевић одбацује.
https://www.youtube.com/v/n5cTXBt-41g
Saponjic:
Замолио бих ако неко може рећи колико је проценат хапло групе I1Z63 код Лужичких Срба и да ли код њих постоји присутност Германских хаплогрупа,собзиром на њихово вековно окружење.Да ли је већи уплив Германске генетике код Срба на Балкану или код Лужичких Срба?Да ли уопште Лужички Срби имају I1Z63,или R1B?
filipi:
--- Цитат: Saponjic Март 27, 2020, 05:16:12 поподне ---Замолио бих ако неко може рећи колико је проценат хапло групе I1Z63 код Лужичких Срба и да ли код њих постоји присутност Германских хаплогрупа,собзиром на њихово вековно окружење.Да ли је већи уплив Германске генетике код Срба на Балкану или код Лужичких Срба?Да ли уопште Лужички Срби имају I1Z63,или R1B?
--- Крај цитата ---
Pa tesko da ces naci procenat po dubljim granama. U svakom slucaju ono sto znamo je da imaju oko 10 % I1 i takodje oko 10 % R1b.
According to a 2013 and 2015 studies, the most common Y-DNA haplogroup among the Sorbs who speak Upper Sorbian in Lusatia (n=123) is R1a, which is carried by 65% of the Sorb males. It is followed in frequency by I1 (9.8%), R1b (9.8%), E1b1b (4.9%), I2 (4.1%), J (3.3%) and G (2.4%). Other haplogroups are less than 1%.[22][23] A study from 2003, reported a similar frequency of 63.4% of haplogroup R1a among Sorbian males (n=112).[24] Other studies that covered aspects of Sorbian Y-DNA include Rodig et al. 2007,[25] Immel et al. 2006,[26] and Krawczak et al. 2008.[27] A 2011 paper on the Sorbs' autosomal DNA reported that the Sorbs showed greatest autosomal genetic similarity to Poles and Czechs, consistent with the linguistic proximity of Sorbian to other West Slavic languages.[28] In a 2016 paper, Sorbs cluster autosomally with Poles from Poznań.[29]
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