I will discuss about some of my father’s Y-DNA matches.
I have done a special list only with Y-STR matches from the Balkans, which can be seen at the end of this message.
The matches named Coradello and Siryi are included, because they are probably of Balkan origin, and Pugliese, who could be of Norman origin.
The matches with a non I-P109 haplogroup (determined using Big Y / SNP packs) were excluded from the list.
The majority of the men present in the lists have the haplogroup listed as I-M253, so we don’t know at this time what their actual haplogroup is, but there is a possiblity that it belongs to the I-FGC22045 branch of I-P109.
All the Y-111 and Y-67 matches (with the exception of Odavic) have taken the Big Y test and are also Big Y matches.
At the end of the list are those that are only Big Y matches, but not Y-STR matches.
1) Gavenea, an Y-25 match (GD=2), has the haplogroup I-P109. I searched the name with LocateFamily.com and it seems that the majority of those that have it are from Brașov county. The correct spelling of the name is Găvenea. However, he is not an autosomal match with my father on FTDNA.
2) Muntean, an Y-25 match (GD=2), has the haplogroup I-M253, so he may have any haplogroup that belongs to I1.
3) Antal, an Y-12 match (GD=0), has the haplogroup I-M253. He is from Sălaj county, also in Transylvania. My father has ancestors that lived in Sălaj county, we found this from the autosomal genetic tests. And actually my father is autosomally related (only 6-8 cM) with Antal (on Antal’s maternal side). He could also be related with Antal on his paternal side, but the person (also distantly related to my father) that paid for Antal’s Y-DNA test, will probably not pay for Big Y or SNP packs.
4) Balan, an Y-12 match (GD=0), has the haplogroup I-M253. He is from Buzău county. In that region was attested the presence of Goths in Antiquity, so he may not be I-P109. The correct spelling of the name is Bălan.
5) Sockaci, an Y-12 match (GD=0), has the haplogroup I-M253. He only says that his ancestor name was Socaciu, from Rumania. This name is fairly common in Transylvania and is derived from the Hungarian name Szakacs. He is not an autosomal match with my father on FTDNA.
6) Tatarliov, an Y-12 match (GD=0), has the haplogroup I-M253. He says that his ancestor lived in Timișoara, in Timiș county. I searched the name with LocateFamily.com and in Rumania it is found only in Sînnicolau Mare, in Timiș county. My father has autosomal matches from that town on Ancestry and 23andMe, but Tatarliov has not done an autosomal test on FTDNA.
7) Gjoka, an Y-12 match (GD=0), has the haplogroup I-M253. He says that his paternal ancestor was from Pogradec. He may be the Gjoka from YFull who has the I-FGC22045 haplogroup. He has taken only the Y-37 test on FTDNA. I searched his name and surname on the internet, and found a D. Gjoka who is the president of the Pogradec Vlach association from Albania. So, he actually can be of Vlach origin. That would confirm the story of the Drobnjaks’ Vlach origin.
https://sites.google.com/site/armaniaverghina/diaspora-aromana-aromanian-diasporaSee the screenshots about Gjoka below:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Adc6jJjmoxq-bd2QZZCb2NKuj5GBggf5/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/12-NyiGh3Snk2VBD4RiihptxZJgSiLiVP/view?usp=sharingActually I forgot to tell you about my father’s biggest autosomal DNA match who has a name similar to Gjoka. This match shares 16 cM with my father and his name is probably P. Gjocaj. He is surely of Albanian origin because he has a shared match named Berisha with my father. See the screenshot below.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lds4KcZgAg91HW9fIMXeS_auU5QdHC14/view?usp=sharing---------------------------------------
Exiled, in Rumania the situation is so bad concerning the hystorical myths, that in my opinion ancestral DNA tests are not possible right now. They would destroy the myths taught in school in an instant.
It is true that the DNA test of Nikola Rašković Drobnjak would not change the history of Serbia, but it could change the history of the Serbian families with the I-FGC22045 haplogroup. However, this change may not be so radical if the tests reveal that he was related to the Vlachs, since this origin was known for a long time.
Happy New Year to you too and to all those that read the forum.
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My father’s (Constantin Munteanu) Y-STR matches:
Y-111
Djurdjic (Montenegro)
Y-67
Barac (Croatia)
Barach (Croatia)
Ilic (Serbia)
Kasalica (Montenegro)
Lukic (Serbia)
Odavic (Croatia, I-P109)
Sabanovic (Montenegro)
Y-37
Seat (Croatia)
Y-25
Bojovic (Bosnia-Herzegovina = B-H)
Bozic (B-H)
Cetkovic Gentula (B-H)
Gavenea (Rumania, I-P109)
Grbovic (Montenegro)
Jaksic (B-H)
Markovic (B-H)
Muntean (Rumania)
Ostojic
Paripovic
Pugliese (Italy, I-P109)
Salic (Croatia)
Savicic
Vemic (Montenegro)
Vukosic
Y-12
Alexandrou (Greece)
Antal (Rumania)
Aronis (Greece)
Bajic (Montenegro)
Balan (Rumania)
Barisic
Coradello
Csiszar (Hungary)
Danalis (Greece)
Dekic (B-H)
Demiraj (Albania)
Djukic (Serbia)
Gjoka (Albania)
Jankovic (B-H)
Jelacic (B-H)
Konjokrad (B-H)
Kosovel (Slovenia)
Kostadinov Evtimov Bogoin (Bulgaria)
Lupse (Slovenia)
Macura (Croatia)
Maric
Marinovic (Serbia, I-P109)
Markovic (B-H)
Mlinarec (Croatia)
Muric (Serbia)
Nedelchev (Bulgaria)
Perovic
Petrovic (Serbia)
Rogoza
Saric (Serbia)
Simic (B-H)
Sinan (B-H)
Siryi
Sockaci (Rumania)
Stojkovic (Serbia)
Tatarliov (Rumania)
Vlahov (Bulgaria)
Zugic (B-H)
Big Y matches who are not Y-STR matches:
Erovic
Krtinic (Serbia)
Todorovic
