Форум - Порекло
ДНК порекло => Аутосомална ДНК => Тему започео: Никац Децембар 12, 2022, 12:04:27 пре подне
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да не затрпавам више тему о влашким резултатима, наставићу овдје о G25 координатама, ако неког занима.
Срби из централне, западне Србије и Војводине добивају: Словене, Мезо-Романе (локалце и блискоисточне), Кумане у траговима.
Target: SerbianW
Distance: 1.1457% / 0.01145683
34.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
28.6 SRB_Roman
26.2 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
9.6 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
1.2 ROU_Ploiesti_MA (Kuman)
Крајишки и Босански Срби имају и утицај Илиро-Романа:
Target: SerbianK
Distance: 1.3198% / 0.01319822
36.8 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
23.8 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
10.8 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
9.0 HRV_North_Roman
7.2 MNE_Roman
6.0 HRV_Roman
5.0 SRB_Roman
1.4 ROU_Ploiesti_MA (Kuman)
Код Срба из југоисточне Србије је веома слаб утицај блискоисточних Римљана, а превладавају Мезо-Романи-локалци:
Target: SerbianE
Distance: 1.4837% / 0.01483656
40.8 SRB_Roman
31.6 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
21.6 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
4.8 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
1.2 ROU_Ploiesti_MA (Kuman)
Црногорци, занимљиво, не добивају Илиро-Романе, само Мезе. Ту је и германски утицај.
Target: Montenegrin
Distance: 0.7442% / 0.00744217
35.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
32.2 SRB_Roman
15.2 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
12.2 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
4.2 SVN_Germanic
1.0 ROU_Ploiesti_MA (Kuman)
Занимљив је и однос панонског и анадолског Словена. Панонски је најјачи код Словенаца, а анадолски расте према истоку, иако постоје одступања. Вјерујем да ће се ситуација додатно искристализирати кад добијемо још ранословенских узорака.
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Ево сад модел за наше "рођаке" Молдавце:
Target: Moldovan
Distance: 0.6276% / 0.00627633
26.6 RUS_MA_Slavic
24.8 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
20.0 HUN_east_LateAntiquity
12.4 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
7.0 SRB_Roman
6.2 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
2.0 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
1.0 IND_Roopkund_A
Они дефинитивно показују јачи утицај средњовјековних источних Словена, и Дако-Романа. Ту је и малени Ромски утицај. Дакле, их ипак може разликовати од нас, иако се радио о миксу сродних компоненти у сличним омјерима.
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Никац, да ли је ово модел који си сам направио од узорака?
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Никац, да ли је ово модел који си сам направио од узорака?
Јесте. Овдје би требали бити сви релевантни узорци за западни Балкан у доба доесељења Словена:
BGR_RomByz(Thracian),0.114961,0.180764,0.000754,-0.055556,0.023081,-0.02008,-0.00611,0.000462,0.017998,0.043737,-0.008607,0.001649,-0.024678,-0.017616,-0.021444,-0.00716,0.020079,-0.013302,-0.006913,-0.004752,-0.013227,0.016075,-0.006655,0.023377,-0.008981
GRC_Marathon_Rom,0.104717,0.146236,-0.02753,-0.065569,-0.000308,-0.023985,0.00188,-0.004846,-0.003068,0.005467,0.014615,0.001349,0.001338,0.001514,-0.009772,0.012066,0.024773,-0.008235,0.008296,-0.001751,-0.002745,-0.003462,0.003328,0.000361,-0.003473
HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian,0.097888,0.023357,0.015839,-0.014535,0.002154,-0.003626,0.003055,0.001154,-0.002045,0.000729,-0.005196,0.006294,-0.003717,-0.002477,0.001357,-0.018563,-0.015385,-0.002154,0.005279,0.008129,-0.005116,0.007543,-0.00949,-0.000723,0.001557
HRV_LateAntiquity,0.1154355,0.1479288,0.0068825,-0.0278049,0.0215679,-0.012643,0.0006267,0.0002501,0.0032212,0.0207293,-0.0007172,0.0055577,-0.0124378,-0.0015941,-0.0089237,0.0011823,0.0068452,-0.0021643,0.0030065,-0.0046376,-0.0064781,0.0000824,-0.0012325,0.0013958,-0.0000998
HRV_North_Roman,0.119059,0.1494858,0.0242866,-0.0114342,0.0301594,-0.0068606,0.000705,0.0015232,0.0029042,0.0186974,0.000487,0.0056348,-0.0119226,-0.0068538,-0.0040714,-0.005171,-0.0002348,0.0010894,0.0072152,-0.0068784,-0.0041676,0.0036846,-0.0001972,0.004049,-0.0021556
HRV_Roman_MiddleEast,0.1069937,0.1428513,-0.030295,-0.055879,-0.0006153,-0.020266,-0.005797,-0.004923,-0.0114533,0.0142143,0.0053043,0.0061447,-0.000892,-0.0050003,-0.0102693,0.003536,0.0169933,-0.0023647,0.000419,-0.0040853,-0.0054487,-0.0010717,-0.003533,0.0012853,-0.0009983
HRV_Roman,0.1211076,0.1549698,0.0158392,-0.0264214,0.0300362,-0.0102632,-0.001128,0.0003692,0.0103488,0.031126,0.0019488,0.0049158,-0.0117442,-0.0037158,-0.0120246,-0.0086714,0.0002348,0.00299,0.0074414,-0.0078538,-0.0029198,0.0039076,0.001405,0.0016628,-0.0028736
HUN_Avar_Gepidian,0.1273193,0.1353556,0.0471401,0.024871,0.0350834,0.0075699,0.0018464,0.0036591,0.0041196,0.006118,-0.0036884,0.0036183,-0.0061799,-0.0032243,0.0048861,0.0062126,0.0029057,0.0038189,0.0057101,0.000661,0.003387,0.0017489,0.0018664,0.0087446,-0.0036951
HUN_Avar_RomanThracian,0.1197355,0.1455594,0.0154515,-0.0203849,0.0245771,-0.0076928,0.0002089,-0.0000256,0.0025452,0.0214988,0.000785,0.0049623,-0.0105797,0.0019306,-0.0104354,-0.0032338,0.0041034,0.0006827,0.00669,-0.0055408,-0.0059859,0.0039706,0.000017,0.0030961,-0.0028772
HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija),0.133173,0.131511,0.07071,0.056848,0.0350835,0.028726,0.006815,0.0077305,0.006136,-0.016492,-0.0016235,-0.0060695,0.00773,0.021538,-0.0115365,-0.0017235,0,0.0013305,0.007856,5e-04,0.0007485,-0.004204,0.0083805,-0.006145,0.0030535
HUN_MA_Szolad_Local,0.1177254,0.151314,0.0157311,-0.0240866,0.0265981,-0.0119923,-0.0001343,-0.0016483,0.0063989,0.0262421,0.000951,0.0072791,-0.0122114,-0.0025757,-0.0056226,-0.0020834,0.0066681,0.0003257,0.0056026,-0.0035373,-0.0058647,0.0034974,0.0018136,0.000809,-0.004311
IND_Roopkund_A,0.0456004,-0.0622011,-0.1456394,0.1089727,-0.0717441,0.0594735,-0.0012631,0.0111052,0.037006,0.0210711,-0.0030548,-0.0002436,0.0001673,0.0026149,-0.0040969,-0.0050965,-0.0007741,0.0004197,-0.0004321,0.0016258,0.0017312,-0.0013061,0.0016253,0.0027336,-0.0037796
MNE_Roman,0.113823,0.153345,0.013576,-0.032623,0.016618,-0.013945,0.00517,-0.004846,-0.000409,0.029158,-0.006171,0.004646,-0.015758,-0.000138,-0.011808,-0.015646,-0.004303,0.008488,0.007919,-0.011005,-0.000624,0.007048,-0.003821,-0.004458,-0.004191
ROU_Ploiesti_MA,0.078538,-0.177718,0.06675,0.028747,-0.053856,-0.006693,0.012691,0.014307,-0.007567,-0.011845,-0.007795,-0.005245,0.001784,-0.01913,0.001086,-0.008221,-0.001304,0.005321,0.00176,0.005002,-0.015473,0.009027,-0.007641,-0.000723,0.005029
SRB_Roman_MiddleEast,0.095042,0.148267,-0.037901,-0.067184,-0.0092325,-0.023566,0.000705,-0.006115,-0.0016365,0.0174035,0.0002435,0.000075,0.0081765,0.002202,-0.0095,-0.0062315,0.0000655,0.001837,0.012821,-0.0044395,-0.0088595,0.004266,-0.0030195,-0.003856,0.00012
SRB_Roman,0.121601,0.155376,0.0147707,-0.0269167,0.031339,-0.0101332,0.00094,0.0043077,0.0062722,0.0310408,0.0033558,0.0088423,-0.0128343,0.0005273,-0.0163997,-0.0062537,0.0057587,-0.0007602,0.007877,-0.0078372,-0.0089425,0.0031737,-0.0026293,0.0031932,-0.0017362
SVN_Emona,0.1206522,0.1475055,0.0247015,-0.011951,0.024543,-0.007112,0.0035838,0.0026538,0.0056245,0.0227795,0.0012178,0.0058072,-0.0095515,0.0019268,-0.0095345,-0.0009612,0.0084748,-0.0005382,0.000817,-0.0017508,-0.0027762,0.0018238,0.0028345,0.0032835,-0.0050292
SVN_Germanic:R10474,0.133173,0.121864,0.072784,0.06783,0.040931,0.026774,0.008225,0.006692,-0.006545,-0.010205,-0.002436,0.007493,-0.011298,-0.006331,0.02158,0.023468,0.017211,0.003927,0.008296,0.010005,0.011605,0.001484,0.007395,0.010845,-0.005029
TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija),0.130897,0.133034,0.065242,0.037791,0.043085,0.008646,0.008225,0.019615,-0.005931,-0.016401,0.00065,-0.007343,0.008771,0.019955,-0.008143,0.003447,0.009257,-0.004434,-0.004651,-0.002626,-0.007736,-0.005193,0.011216,-0.007712,-0.007664
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Target: ivica
Distance: 0.9240% / 0.00924028
42.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
39.0 SRB_Roman
8.0 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
5.4 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
3.4 GRC_Marathon_Rom
2.0 MNE_Roman
Distance to: ivica
0.03711462 HUN_Avar_Gepidian
0.04146117 SVN_Emona
0.04467739 HRV_North_Roman
0.04961670 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
0.05690886 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
0.05792301 HUN_MA_Szolad_Local
0.06048573 SRB_Roman
0.06121714 HRV_Roman
0.06206435 HRV_LateAntiquity
0.06944911 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
0.07143429 MNE_Roman
0.09523320 SVN_Germanic:R10474
0.11141201 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
0.11576733 BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
0.11735558 GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.12724084 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
0.13889976 HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian
0.32942810 IND_Roopkund_A
0.34263817 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
Moglo je i gore ;D
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Јесте. Овдје би требали бити сви релевантни узорци за западни Балкан у доба доесељења Словена:
BGR_RomByz(Thracian),0.114961,0.180764,0.000754,-0.055556,0.023081,-0.02008,-0.00611,0.000462,0.017998,0.043737,-0.008607,0.001649,-0.024678,-0.017616,-0.021444,-0.00716,0.020079,-0.013302,-0.006913,-0.004752,-0.013227,0.016075,-0.006655,0.023377,-0.008981
GRC_Marathon_Rom,0.104717,0.146236,-0.02753,-0.065569,-0.000308,-0.023985,0.00188,-0.004846,-0.003068,0.005467,0.014615,0.001349,0.001338,0.001514,-0.009772,0.012066,0.024773,-0.008235,0.008296,-0.001751,-0.002745,-0.003462,0.003328,0.000361,-0.003473
HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian,0.097888,0.023357,0.015839,-0.014535,0.002154,-0.003626,0.003055,0.001154,-0.002045,0.000729,-0.005196,0.006294,-0.003717,-0.002477,0.001357,-0.018563,-0.015385,-0.002154,0.005279,0.008129,-0.005116,0.007543,-0.00949,-0.000723,0.001557
HRV_LateAntiquity,0.1154355,0.1479288,0.0068825,-0.0278049,0.0215679,-0.012643,0.0006267,0.0002501,0.0032212,0.0207293,-0.0007172,0.0055577,-0.0124378,-0.0015941,-0.0089237,0.0011823,0.0068452,-0.0021643,0.0030065,-0.0046376,-0.0064781,0.0000824,-0.0012325,0.0013958,-0.0000998
HRV_North_Roman,0.119059,0.1494858,0.0242866,-0.0114342,0.0301594,-0.0068606,0.000705,0.0015232,0.0029042,0.0186974,0.000487,0.0056348,-0.0119226,-0.0068538,-0.0040714,-0.005171,-0.0002348,0.0010894,0.0072152,-0.0068784,-0.0041676,0.0036846,-0.0001972,0.004049,-0.0021556
HRV_Roman_MiddleEast,0.1069937,0.1428513,-0.030295,-0.055879,-0.0006153,-0.020266,-0.005797,-0.004923,-0.0114533,0.0142143,0.0053043,0.0061447,-0.000892,-0.0050003,-0.0102693,0.003536,0.0169933,-0.0023647,0.000419,-0.0040853,-0.0054487,-0.0010717,-0.003533,0.0012853,-0.0009983
HRV_Roman,0.1211076,0.1549698,0.0158392,-0.0264214,0.0300362,-0.0102632,-0.001128,0.0003692,0.0103488,0.031126,0.0019488,0.0049158,-0.0117442,-0.0037158,-0.0120246,-0.0086714,0.0002348,0.00299,0.0074414,-0.0078538,-0.0029198,0.0039076,0.001405,0.0016628,-0.0028736
HUN_Avar_Gepidian,0.1273193,0.1353556,0.0471401,0.024871,0.0350834,0.0075699,0.0018464,0.0036591,0.0041196,0.006118,-0.0036884,0.0036183,-0.0061799,-0.0032243,0.0048861,0.0062126,0.0029057,0.0038189,0.0057101,0.000661,0.003387,0.0017489,0.0018664,0.0087446,-0.0036951
HUN_Avar_RomanThracian,0.1197355,0.1455594,0.0154515,-0.0203849,0.0245771,-0.0076928,0.0002089,-0.0000256,0.0025452,0.0214988,0.000785,0.0049623,-0.0105797,0.0019306,-0.0104354,-0.0032338,0.0041034,0.0006827,0.00669,-0.0055408,-0.0059859,0.0039706,0.000017,0.0030961,-0.0028772
HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija),0.133173,0.131511,0.07071,0.056848,0.0350835,0.028726,0.006815,0.0077305,0.006136,-0.016492,-0.0016235,-0.0060695,0.00773,0.021538,-0.0115365,-0.0017235,0,0.0013305,0.007856,5e-04,0.0007485,-0.004204,0.0083805,-0.006145,0.0030535
HUN_MA_Szolad_Local,0.1177254,0.151314,0.0157311,-0.0240866,0.0265981,-0.0119923,-0.0001343,-0.0016483,0.0063989,0.0262421,0.000951,0.0072791,-0.0122114,-0.0025757,-0.0056226,-0.0020834,0.0066681,0.0003257,0.0056026,-0.0035373,-0.0058647,0.0034974,0.0018136,0.000809,-0.004311
IND_Roopkund_A,0.0456004,-0.0622011,-0.1456394,0.1089727,-0.0717441,0.0594735,-0.0012631,0.0111052,0.037006,0.0210711,-0.0030548,-0.0002436,0.0001673,0.0026149,-0.0040969,-0.0050965,-0.0007741,0.0004197,-0.0004321,0.0016258,0.0017312,-0.0013061,0.0016253,0.0027336,-0.0037796
MNE_Roman,0.113823,0.153345,0.013576,-0.032623,0.016618,-0.013945,0.00517,-0.004846,-0.000409,0.029158,-0.006171,0.004646,-0.015758,-0.000138,-0.011808,-0.015646,-0.004303,0.008488,0.007919,-0.011005,-0.000624,0.007048,-0.003821,-0.004458,-0.004191
ROU_Ploiesti_MA,0.078538,-0.177718,0.06675,0.028747,-0.053856,-0.006693,0.012691,0.014307,-0.007567,-0.011845,-0.007795,-0.005245,0.001784,-0.01913,0.001086,-0.008221,-0.001304,0.005321,0.00176,0.005002,-0.015473,0.009027,-0.007641,-0.000723,0.005029
SRB_Roman_MiddleEast,0.095042,0.148267,-0.037901,-0.067184,-0.0092325,-0.023566,0.000705,-0.006115,-0.0016365,0.0174035,0.0002435,0.000075,0.0081765,0.002202,-0.0095,-0.0062315,0.0000655,0.001837,0.012821,-0.0044395,-0.0088595,0.004266,-0.0030195,-0.003856,0.00012
SRB_Roman,0.121601,0.155376,0.0147707,-0.0269167,0.031339,-0.0101332,0.00094,0.0043077,0.0062722,0.0310408,0.0033558,0.0088423,-0.0128343,0.0005273,-0.0163997,-0.0062537,0.0057587,-0.0007602,0.007877,-0.0078372,-0.0089425,0.0031737,-0.0026293,0.0031932,-0.0017362
SVN_Emona,0.1206522,0.1475055,0.0247015,-0.011951,0.024543,-0.007112,0.0035838,0.0026538,0.0056245,0.0227795,0.0012178,0.0058072,-0.0095515,0.0019268,-0.0095345,-0.0009612,0.0084748,-0.0005382,0.000817,-0.0017508,-0.0027762,0.0018238,0.0028345,0.0032835,-0.0050292
SVN_Germanic:R10474,0.133173,0.121864,0.072784,0.06783,0.040931,0.026774,0.008225,0.006692,-0.006545,-0.010205,-0.002436,0.007493,-0.011298,-0.006331,0.02158,0.023468,0.017211,0.003927,0.008296,0.010005,0.011605,0.001484,0.007395,0.010845,-0.005029
TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija),0.130897,0.133034,0.065242,0.037791,0.043085,0.008646,0.008225,0.019615,-0.005931,-0.016401,0.00065,-0.007343,0.008771,0.019955,-0.008143,0.003447,0.009257,-0.004434,-0.004651,-0.002626,-0.007736,-0.005193,0.011216,-0.007712,-0.007664
Хвала, ево и мојих резултата.
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.3842% / 0.01384190
35.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
34.0 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
14.6 SRB_Roman
7.8 BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
4.0 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
2.8 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
1.6 MNE_Roman
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Крајишки и Босански Срби имају и утицај Илиро-Романа:
Target: SerbianK
Distance: 1.3198% / 0.01319822
36.8 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
23.8 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
10.8 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
9.0 HRV_North_Roman
7.2 MNE_Roman
6.0 HRV_Roman
5.0 SRB_Roman
1.4 ROU_Ploiesti_MA (Kuman)
Ово је погрешан закључак.
Пре-словенска компонента крајишких Срба не разликује се од осталих.
Зашто се очекује присуство тих локалних Илира ("HRV_Roman"), када смо насељени на празан простор током 16. века?
Пресловенска компонента је централнобалканска мезијска, у мом случају чак вуче према трачанској из неког разлога.
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Ово је погрешан закључак.
Пре-словенска компонента крајишких Срба не разликује се од осталих.
Зашто се очекује присуство тих локалних Илира ("HRV_Roman"), када смо насељени на празан простор током 16. века?
Пресловенска компонента је централнобалканска мезијска, у мом случају чак вуче према трачанској из неког разлога.
Овдје су 2 крајишка и 1 (источно)босански Србин узети као примјер Срба западно од Ибра.
Да имамо резултате из Херцеговине или Западне Србије, вјерујем да би били слични овоме. У Црној Гори су већ неки други процеси.
У изворној средњовјековној Србији (западно од Ибра) Срби су се мијешали с некаквим Илиро-Романима, који наравно нису више били чисти Илири. Мислим да ови узорци HRV_Roman и MNE_Roman управо њих представљају.
Од њихових хаплогрупа преживјеле су, по мом мишљењу Васојевићка грана E-V13, и J2b1 Кричи.
Наравно, кад су се Срби почели ширити источно од Ибра, шире са собом и нешто те илиро-романске генетике. Мислим да се управо овако ширила J2b1 према унутрашњости Балкана.
Али то су можда неке нијансе које G25 не може препознати.
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Овдје су 2 крајишка и 1 (источно)босански Србин узети као примјер Срба западно од Ибра.
Да имамо резултате из Херцеговине или Западне Србије, вјерујем да би били слични овоме. У Црној Гори су већ неки други процеси.
У изворној средњовјековној Србији (западно од Ибра) Срби су се мијешали с некаквим Илиро-Романима, који наравно нису више били чисти Илири. Мислим да ови узорци HRV_Roman и MNE_Roman управо њих представљају.
Од њихових хаплогрупа преживјеле су, по мом мишљењу Васојевићка грана E-V13, и J2b1 Кричи.
Наравно, кад су се Срби почели ширити источно од Ибра, шире са собом и нешто те илиро-романске генетике. Мислим да се управо овако ширила J2b1 према унутрашњости Балкана.
Али то су можда неке нијансе које G25 не може препознати.
Ево и Драјвер је добио сличне компоненте као и ја:
Target: Simo_scaled
Distance: 1.6191% / 0.01619143
33.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
20.2 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
19.2 BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
18.8 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
5.8 SRB_Roman
2.6 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
0.2 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
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Имајте у виду и чињеницу да коришћење симулованих координата даје мало другачије резултате од оригиналних (ипак нису добијене истом методом), као и чињеницу да код калкулатора који користе узорке који су релативно слични може доћи до тога да једна компонента "једе" другу.
Можда би било добро користити ADC 0.25 или чак 0.5, али у том случају ће и нека минорна наслеђа нестати.
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Имајте у виду и чињеницу да коришћење симулованих координата даје мало другачије резултате од оригиналних (ипак нису добијене истом методом), као и чињеницу да код калкулатора који користе узорке који су релативно слични може доћи до тога да једна компонента "једе" другу.
Можда би било добро користити ADC 0.25 или чак 0.5, али у том случају ће и нека минорна наслеђа нестати.
Све координате коришћене у овој теми су оригинали, осим Душанових.
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Све координате коришћене у овој теми су оригинали, осим Душанових.
О томе причам. Не знам за Драјвера.
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О томе причам. Не знам за Драјвера.
мислим да су и његове оригинал.
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Ево и наших резултата
(https://i.postimg.cc/TwGMy0jB/Screenshot-20221212-134912-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7WSp8x9)
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Miodragu da se da senatorska tunika ;D
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Miodragu da se da senatorska tunika ;D
Деда је баш типични представник ЈИ Србије из Никчевог првог поста, где доминира SRB_Roman компонента.
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Све координате коришћене у овој теми су оригинали, осим Душанових.
G25 координате настале симулацијом из Eurogenes K36, се са тачношћу преко 90% поклапају са онима које направи тај Пољак Давидски.
Конвертер: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/simulated-g25.aspx
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/42566-Tool-for-converting-K36-to-G25-coordinates?s=88a3188763253c4d8d5ba0d6aaf1bbf9
(https://i.imgur.com/OSzxVZg.png)
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Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.0753% / 0.01075331
31.8 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
28.8 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
27.4 SRB_Roman
9.8 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
1.4 GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.8 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
Ево мог резултата са симулованим Г25, удео компоненти се доста разликује од оригинала.
Како симулован секс није исто што и прави, тако ни симуловане координате не могу до краја да одраде посао.
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мислим да су и његове оригинал.
Ваистину јесу.
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Поријекло Подкозарије и сјеверно Подриње
G25 координате симуловане
Target: G25Drazen
Distance: 1.0904% / 0.01090438
38.0 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
32.0 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
21.2 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
5.8 SVN_Germanic
2.4 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
0.6 IND_Roopkund_A
Distance to: G25Drazen
0.03213710 HUN_Avar_Gepidian
0.03903775 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
0.04888428 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
0.06208535 SVN_Emona
0.06439745 HRV_North_Roman
0.07103884 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
0.07679159 SVN_Germanic:R10474
0.07926792 HUN_MA_Szolad_Local
0.08322681 HRV_LateAntiquity
0.08342239 SRB_Roman
0.08362174 HRV_Roman
0.09315226 MNE_Roman
0.13021172 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
0.13590117 GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.13671310 BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
0.13796588 HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian
0.14639895 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
0.32459367 IND_Roopkund_A
0.33318552 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
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G25 координате настале симулацијом из Eurogenes K36, се са тачношћу преко 90% поклапају са онима које направи тај Пољак Давидски.
Конвертер: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/simulated-g25.aspx
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/42566-Tool-for-converting-K36-to-G25-coordinates?s=88a3188763253c4d8d5ba0d6aaf1bbf9
(https://i.imgur.com/OSzxVZg.png)
Нисам рекао ништа против. :) Само наглашавам да су оригинали, за оне које занима.
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Чисто ради упоредбе резултати једне Украјинке из Николајева која има и Лезгинске коријене преко дједа
Target: K36Alia
Distance: 2.5466% / 0.02546603
33.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
27.2 SVN_Germanic
19.8 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
7.8 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
4.8 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
4.6 IND_Roopkund_A
2.4 HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian
Distance to: K36Alia
0.04941868 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
0.05000668 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
0.05126326 HUN_Avar_Gepidian
0.06458861 SVN_Germanic:R10474
0.08931220 SVN_Emona
0.08981400 HRV_North_Roman
0.09662198 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
0.10521940 HUN_MA_Szolad_Local
0.10637781 HRV_LateAntiquity
0.11188802 HRV_Roman
0.11237693 SRB_Roman
0.11677664 MNE_Roman
0.13317542 HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian
0.14422800 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
0.15105915 GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.16125160 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
0.16318926 BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
0.30846876 IND_Roopkund_A
0.31790230 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
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Поријекло Подкозарије и сјеверно Подриње
G25 координате симуловане
Target: G25Drazen
Distance: 1.0904% / 0.01090438
38.0 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
32.0 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
21.2 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
5.8 SVN_Germanic
2.4 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
0.6 IND_Roopkund_A
Distance to: G25Drazen
0.03213710 HUN_Avar_Gepidian
0.03903775 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
0.04888428 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
0.06208535 SVN_Emona
0.06439745 HRV_North_Roman
0.07103884 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
0.07679159 SVN_Germanic:R10474
0.07926792 HUN_MA_Szolad_Local
0.08322681 HRV_LateAntiquity
0.08342239 SRB_Roman
0.08362174 HRV_Roman
0.09315226 MNE_Roman
0.13021172 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
0.13590117 GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.13671310 BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
0.13796588 HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian
0.14639895 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
0.32459367 IND_Roopkund_A
0.33318552 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
Ово је кластер аварских узорака из источне Мађарске без много азијске или словенске генетике, а богати су микењанско-трачком и aнадолском. По Y-ДНК су углавном E-V13.
Дођу нешто као они Куберови Сермезијанци. Нису баш из Срема, али свакако су неког сличног постанка.
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Јесте. Овдје би требали бити сви релевантни узорци за западни Балкан у доба доесељења Словена:
BGR_RomByz(Thracian),0.114961,0.180764,0.000754,-0.055556,0.023081,-0.02008,-0.00611,0.000462,0.017998,0.043737,-0.008607,0.001649,-0.024678,-0.017616,-0.021444,-0.00716,0.020079,-0.013302,-0.006913,-0.004752,-0.013227,0.016075,-0.006655,0.023377,-0.008981
GRC_Marathon_Rom,0.104717,0.146236,-0.02753,-0.065569,-0.000308,-0.023985,0.00188,-0.004846,-0.003068,0.005467,0.014615,0.001349,0.001338,0.001514,-0.009772,0.012066,0.024773,-0.008235,0.008296,-0.001751,-0.002745,-0.003462,0.003328,0.000361,-0.003473
HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian,0.097888,0.023357,0.015839,-0.014535,0.002154,-0.003626,0.003055,0.001154,-0.002045,0.000729,-0.005196,0.006294,-0.003717,-0.002477,0.001357,-0.018563,-0.015385,-0.002154,0.005279,0.008129,-0.005116,0.007543,-0.00949,-0.000723,0.001557
HRV_LateAntiquity,0.1154355,0.1479288,0.0068825,-0.0278049,0.0215679,-0.012643,0.0006267,0.0002501,0.0032212,0.0207293,-0.0007172,0.0055577,-0.0124378,-0.0015941,-0.0089237,0.0011823,0.0068452,-0.0021643,0.0030065,-0.0046376,-0.0064781,0.0000824,-0.0012325,0.0013958,-0.0000998
HRV_North_Roman,0.119059,0.1494858,0.0242866,-0.0114342,0.0301594,-0.0068606,0.000705,0.0015232,0.0029042,0.0186974,0.000487,0.0056348,-0.0119226,-0.0068538,-0.0040714,-0.005171,-0.0002348,0.0010894,0.0072152,-0.0068784,-0.0041676,0.0036846,-0.0001972,0.004049,-0.0021556
HRV_Roman_MiddleEast,0.1069937,0.1428513,-0.030295,-0.055879,-0.0006153,-0.020266,-0.005797,-0.004923,-0.0114533,0.0142143,0.0053043,0.0061447,-0.000892,-0.0050003,-0.0102693,0.003536,0.0169933,-0.0023647,0.000419,-0.0040853,-0.0054487,-0.0010717,-0.003533,0.0012853,-0.0009983
HRV_Roman,0.1211076,0.1549698,0.0158392,-0.0264214,0.0300362,-0.0102632,-0.001128,0.0003692,0.0103488,0.031126,0.0019488,0.0049158,-0.0117442,-0.0037158,-0.0120246,-0.0086714,0.0002348,0.00299,0.0074414,-0.0078538,-0.0029198,0.0039076,0.001405,0.0016628,-0.0028736
HUN_Avar_Gepidian,0.1273193,0.1353556,0.0471401,0.024871,0.0350834,0.0075699,0.0018464,0.0036591,0.0041196,0.006118,-0.0036884,0.0036183,-0.0061799,-0.0032243,0.0048861,0.0062126,0.0029057,0.0038189,0.0057101,0.000661,0.003387,0.0017489,0.0018664,0.0087446,-0.0036951
HUN_Avar_RomanThracian,0.1197355,0.1455594,0.0154515,-0.0203849,0.0245771,-0.0076928,0.0002089,-0.0000256,0.0025452,0.0214988,0.000785,0.0049623,-0.0105797,0.0019306,-0.0104354,-0.0032338,0.0041034,0.0006827,0.00669,-0.0055408,-0.0059859,0.0039706,0.000017,0.0030961,-0.0028772
HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija),0.133173,0.131511,0.07071,0.056848,0.0350835,0.028726,0.006815,0.0077305,0.006136,-0.016492,-0.0016235,-0.0060695,0.00773,0.021538,-0.0115365,-0.0017235,0,0.0013305,0.007856,5e-04,0.0007485,-0.004204,0.0083805,-0.006145,0.0030535
HUN_MA_Szolad_Local,0.1177254,0.151314,0.0157311,-0.0240866,0.0265981,-0.0119923,-0.0001343,-0.0016483,0.0063989,0.0262421,0.000951,0.0072791,-0.0122114,-0.0025757,-0.0056226,-0.0020834,0.0066681,0.0003257,0.0056026,-0.0035373,-0.0058647,0.0034974,0.0018136,0.000809,-0.004311
IND_Roopkund_A,0.0456004,-0.0622011,-0.1456394,0.1089727,-0.0717441,0.0594735,-0.0012631,0.0111052,0.037006,0.0210711,-0.0030548,-0.0002436,0.0001673,0.0026149,-0.0040969,-0.0050965,-0.0007741,0.0004197,-0.0004321,0.0016258,0.0017312,-0.0013061,0.0016253,0.0027336,-0.0037796
MNE_Roman,0.113823,0.153345,0.013576,-0.032623,0.016618,-0.013945,0.00517,-0.004846,-0.000409,0.029158,-0.006171,0.004646,-0.015758,-0.000138,-0.011808,-0.015646,-0.004303,0.008488,0.007919,-0.011005,-0.000624,0.007048,-0.003821,-0.004458,-0.004191
ROU_Ploiesti_MA,0.078538,-0.177718,0.06675,0.028747,-0.053856,-0.006693,0.012691,0.014307,-0.007567,-0.011845,-0.007795,-0.005245,0.001784,-0.01913,0.001086,-0.008221,-0.001304,0.005321,0.00176,0.005002,-0.015473,0.009027,-0.007641,-0.000723,0.005029
SRB_Roman_MiddleEast,0.095042,0.148267,-0.037901,-0.067184,-0.0092325,-0.023566,0.000705,-0.006115,-0.0016365,0.0174035,0.0002435,0.000075,0.0081765,0.002202,-0.0095,-0.0062315,0.0000655,0.001837,0.012821,-0.0044395,-0.0088595,0.004266,-0.0030195,-0.003856,0.00012
SRB_Roman,0.121601,0.155376,0.0147707,-0.0269167,0.031339,-0.0101332,0.00094,0.0043077,0.0062722,0.0310408,0.0033558,0.0088423,-0.0128343,0.0005273,-0.0163997,-0.0062537,0.0057587,-0.0007602,0.007877,-0.0078372,-0.0089425,0.0031737,-0.0026293,0.0031932,-0.0017362
SVN_Emona,0.1206522,0.1475055,0.0247015,-0.011951,0.024543,-0.007112,0.0035838,0.0026538,0.0056245,0.0227795,0.0012178,0.0058072,-0.0095515,0.0019268,-0.0095345,-0.0009612,0.0084748,-0.0005382,0.000817,-0.0017508,-0.0027762,0.0018238,0.0028345,0.0032835,-0.0050292
SVN_Germanic:R10474,0.133173,0.121864,0.072784,0.06783,0.040931,0.026774,0.008225,0.006692,-0.006545,-0.010205,-0.002436,0.007493,-0.011298,-0.006331,0.02158,0.023468,0.017211,0.003927,0.008296,0.010005,0.011605,0.001484,0.007395,0.010845,-0.005029
TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija),0.130897,0.133034,0.065242,0.037791,0.043085,0.008646,0.008225,0.019615,-0.005931,-0.016401,0.00065,-0.007343,0.008771,0.019955,-0.008143,0.003447,0.009257,-0.004434,-0.004651,-0.002626,-0.007736,-0.005193,0.011216,-0.007712,-0.007664
Да ли имаш ове узорке у Еурогенес К36 или К13 формату?
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Чисто ради упоредбе резултати једне Украјинке из Николајева која има и Лезгинске коријене преко дједа
Target: K36Alia
Distance: 2.5466% / 0.02546603
33.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
27.2 SVN_Germanic
19.8 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
7.8 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
4.8 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
4.6 IND_Roopkund_A
2.4 HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian
Distance to: K36Alia
0.04941868 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
0.05000668 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
0.05126326 HUN_Avar_Gepidian
0.06458861 SVN_Germanic:R10474
0.08931220 SVN_Emona
0.08981400 HRV_North_Roman
0.09662198 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
0.10521940 HUN_MA_Szolad_Local
0.10637781 HRV_LateAntiquity
0.11188802 HRV_Roman
0.11237693 SRB_Roman
0.11677664 MNE_Roman
0.13317542 HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian
0.14422800 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
0.15105915 GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.16125160 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
0.16318926 BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
0.30846876 IND_Roopkund_A
0.31790230 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
пробај ове координате за њу:
RUS_Alan_MA,0.109953,0.104599,-0.025418,-0.008979,-0.026282,0.005132,0.005452,-0.007246,-0.045691,-0.024821,0.002826,0.009831,-0.016680,-0.006578,0.005809,-0.002758,0.005372,-0.005904,-0.005732,0.003477,0.003893,0.006529,0.001553,-0.000409,-0.003664
RUS_MA_Baltic,0.124637,0.128972,0.078253,0.075582,0.042931,0.031096,0.004818,0.015923,-0.001125,-0.029158,-0.003654,-0.009742,0.017319,0.021194,-0.011265,0.009812,0.009649,-0.005891,0.001194,0.005878,-0.003993,-0.006183,0.009059,-0.000181,0.003952
RUS_MA_mixedSlavViking,0.119799,0.116278,0.072407,0.053295,0.038392,0.020150,0.009577,0.012519,0.001227,-0.021003,-0.001827,-0.003522,0.005092,0.007260,0.001357,0.007160,-0.002836,-0.007570,0.002357,0.004877,0.009265,-0.002102,0.004160,0.001958,-0.007095
RUS_MA_viking_Scandinavian,0.123925,0.120594,0.073067,0.063853,0.041277,0.021475,0.004906,0.009130,0.005778,-0.010012,-0.003177,0.000496,-0.003540,-0.003105,0.013470,0.010798,-0.001980,0.002185,0.004533,0.002822,0.005615,0.000634,-0.002018,0.011786,0.001452
RUS_MA_viking_WestEuro,0.118376,0.139128,0.061848,0.031977,0.033545,0.017849,0.008930,0.007384,0.008385,0.001458,-0.004384,0.006744,-0.010555,-0.018717,0.019001,0.010475,-0.010431,0.001140,-0.001131,-0.002001,0.001123,0.002349,-0.000986,0.002892,-0.000239
UKR_MA,0.124067,0.125926,0.061471,0.050711,0.030929,0.016176,0.005993,0.014076,-0.005625,-0.015855,0.001218,-0.006070,0.017022,0.026286,-0.016354,-0.000862,-0.002087,-0.002091,0.000189,0.002439,-0.003744,-0.007357,0.009367,-0.007230,0.003832
UKR_MA_Viking,0.126913,0.116278,0.081647,0.065246,0.044470,0.019383,0.006228,0.008884,0.001943,-0.015035,0.004060,0.000300,0.000744,-0.003303,0.013912,-0.006762,-0.020927,0.004751,0.001194,0.001313,0.004555,0.001175,0.001602,0.009279,0.001377
UKR_Crimea_Greek,0.104717,0.125926,-0.010559,-0.034884,-0.008617,-0.017012,-0.002585,-0.004615,-0.023111,-0.000729,0.005196,-0.003747,-0.006541,0.002615,-0.002036,-0.005834,0.001043,-0.011402,-0.005782,0.004877,0.006239,0.011994,0.005916,0.008073,-0.004431
RUS_Nomad_MA,0.087644,-0.090382,0.050534,0.031331,-0.036314,-0.008925,0.003760,0.007384,-0.009613,-0.016037,-0.007632,-0.001499,0.002527,-0.007019,-0.002172,-0.007425,-0.011735,0.004814,0.004022,-0.001000,-0.004243,0.008779,0.001972,-0.000120,-0.002754
RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res,0.117238,0.100537,-0.013953,-0.016150,-0.052317,0.004462,-0.003760,0.021922,-0.068311,-0.029158,-0.007795,0.022930,-0.012933,0.014450,0.026330,-0.036197,0.020731,-0.000760,-0.021494,0.011881,0.007362,-0.004699,-0.010846,-0.009158,-0.003832
BEL_MA:BEL024,0.134311,0.136081,0.065242,0.04522,0.038469,0.031515,0.003525,0.011538,0.003272,-0.012757,0.000974,-0.013938,0.019177,0.025185,-0.00475,0.002784,0.00326,0.00266,0.01345,0.001876,0.001248,-0.002844,-0.002218,-0.011809,-0.005628
RUS_earlyModern,0.125368,0.1031489,0.0740236,0.0635849,0.0320497,0.0211959,0.0073189,0.0133183,-0.003097,-0.022389,0.0001856,-0.0083713,0.0165651,0.0202896,-0.0109737,0.0003029,0.0033341,-0.0032759,0.0046689,0.0014471,-0.0003744,-0.0030913,0.0066906,-0.0004304,-0.0017107
RUS_MA_Slavic,0.1202255,0.1162781,0.0689659,0.0620564,0.0305055,0.0208124,0.0093709,0.0121149,-0.0002299,-0.0193169,-0.0018269,-0.0069501,0.0146431,0.0240324,-0.0077701,-0.0018728,0.0007986,-0.0036741,0.0020428,0.0027044,0.000265,-0.0061674,0.006794,-0.0061904,-0.004416
Rus_IA_FinnoUgric,0.1152459,0.0307198,0.0921116,0.088179,0.0026158,0.0160015,0.0117212,0.0158648,-0.00565,-0.0413678,0.0132145,-0.0100972,0.0231725,0.0002409,-0.0129442,-0.00121,0.0021512,-0.001346,-0.0039438,0.002345,0.0038838,-0.0019321,0.0021412,-0.0068834,0.0008382
RUS_MA_south,0.117807,0.1005375,0.045066,0.0285855,0.018157,0.008646,0.0019975,0.0088845,-0.0076695,-0.006014,-0.0014615,-0.003297,0.000595,0.0158955,-0.0093645,-0.0042425,-0.002868,0.0025335,0.0063475,-0.008129,-0.0013725,-0.002473,0.004314,-0.0050605,0.001437
RUS_MA_mixedSlavFinnic,0.1175222,0.0672788,0.0857952,0.0805078,0.0203882,0.018546,0.0094592,0.0128648,-0.0006645,-0.033395,0.0068608,-0.0133755,0.023637,0.014003,-0.0143185,-0.0001325,0.0082795,-0.005954,-0.000534,0.0051585,-0.0005925,-0.004575,0.0,-0.0053622,0.000898
RUS_MA_TurkicNomad,0.075882,-0.1492827,0.0520427,0.015181,-0.041341,-0.0103193,0.0043867,0.010461,-0.010499,-0.010266,-0.0144523,-0.0019483,0.0019823,-0.0089913,0.0010403,-0.0009723,-0.0083013,0.003336,0.009176,0.006795,-0.015223,0.0023903,-0.0066143,-0.001687,-0.001916
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Да ли имаш ове узорке у Еурогенес К36 или К13 формату?
Немам, нажалост.
ово су само координате које Давидски објављује на свом блогу, разврстане у кластере.
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пробај ове координате за њу:
RUS_Alan_MA,0.109953,0.104599,-0.025418,-0.008979,-0.026282,0.005132,0.005452,-0.007246,-0.045691,-0.024821,0.002826,0.009831,-0.016680,-0.006578,0.005809,-0.002758,0.005372,-0.005904,-0.005732,0.003477,0.003893,0.006529,0.001553,-0.000409,-0.003664
RUS_MA_Baltic,0.124637,0.128972,0.078253,0.075582,0.042931,0.031096,0.004818,0.015923,-0.001125,-0.029158,-0.003654,-0.009742,0.017319,0.021194,-0.011265,0.009812,0.009649,-0.005891,0.001194,0.005878,-0.003993,-0.006183,0.009059,-0.000181,0.003952
RUS_MA_mixedSlavViking,0.119799,0.116278,0.072407,0.053295,0.038392,0.020150,0.009577,0.012519,0.001227,-0.021003,-0.001827,-0.003522,0.005092,0.007260,0.001357,0.007160,-0.002836,-0.007570,0.002357,0.004877,0.009265,-0.002102,0.004160,0.001958,-0.007095
RUS_MA_viking_Scandinavian,0.123925,0.120594,0.073067,0.063853,0.041277,0.021475,0.004906,0.009130,0.005778,-0.010012,-0.003177,0.000496,-0.003540,-0.003105,0.013470,0.010798,-0.001980,0.002185,0.004533,0.002822,0.005615,0.000634,-0.002018,0.011786,0.001452
RUS_MA_viking_WestEuro,0.118376,0.139128,0.061848,0.031977,0.033545,0.017849,0.008930,0.007384,0.008385,0.001458,-0.004384,0.006744,-0.010555,-0.018717,0.019001,0.010475,-0.010431,0.001140,-0.001131,-0.002001,0.001123,0.002349,-0.000986,0.002892,-0.000239
UKR_MA,0.124067,0.125926,0.061471,0.050711,0.030929,0.016176,0.005993,0.014076,-0.005625,-0.015855,0.001218,-0.006070,0.017022,0.026286,-0.016354,-0.000862,-0.002087,-0.002091,0.000189,0.002439,-0.003744,-0.007357,0.009367,-0.007230,0.003832
UKR_MA_Viking,0.126913,0.116278,0.081647,0.065246,0.044470,0.019383,0.006228,0.008884,0.001943,-0.015035,0.004060,0.000300,0.000744,-0.003303,0.013912,-0.006762,-0.020927,0.004751,0.001194,0.001313,0.004555,0.001175,0.001602,0.009279,0.001377
UKR_Crimea_Greek,0.104717,0.125926,-0.010559,-0.034884,-0.008617,-0.017012,-0.002585,-0.004615,-0.023111,-0.000729,0.005196,-0.003747,-0.006541,0.002615,-0.002036,-0.005834,0.001043,-0.011402,-0.005782,0.004877,0.006239,0.011994,0.005916,0.008073,-0.004431
RUS_Nomad_MA,0.087644,-0.090382,0.050534,0.031331,-0.036314,-0.008925,0.003760,0.007384,-0.009613,-0.016037,-0.007632,-0.001499,0.002527,-0.007019,-0.002172,-0.007425,-0.011735,0.004814,0.004022,-0.001000,-0.004243,0.008779,0.001972,-0.000120,-0.002754
RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res,0.117238,0.100537,-0.013953,-0.016150,-0.052317,0.004462,-0.003760,0.021922,-0.068311,-0.029158,-0.007795,0.022930,-0.012933,0.014450,0.026330,-0.036197,0.020731,-0.000760,-0.021494,0.011881,0.007362,-0.004699,-0.010846,-0.009158,-0.003832
BEL_MA:BEL024,0.134311,0.136081,0.065242,0.04522,0.038469,0.031515,0.003525,0.011538,0.003272,-0.012757,0.000974,-0.013938,0.019177,0.025185,-0.00475,0.002784,0.00326,0.00266,0.01345,0.001876,0.001248,-0.002844,-0.002218,-0.011809,-0.005628
RUS_earlyModern,0.125368,0.1031489,0.0740236,0.0635849,0.0320497,0.0211959,0.0073189,0.0133183,-0.003097,-0.022389,0.0001856,-0.0083713,0.0165651,0.0202896,-0.0109737,0.0003029,0.0033341,-0.0032759,0.0046689,0.0014471,-0.0003744,-0.0030913,0.0066906,-0.0004304,-0.0017107
RUS_MA_Slavic,0.1202255,0.1162781,0.0689659,0.0620564,0.0305055,0.0208124,0.0093709,0.0121149,-0.0002299,-0.0193169,-0.0018269,-0.0069501,0.0146431,0.0240324,-0.0077701,-0.0018728,0.0007986,-0.0036741,0.0020428,0.0027044,0.000265,-0.0061674,0.006794,-0.0061904,-0.004416
Rus_IA_FinnoUgric,0.1152459,0.0307198,0.0921116,0.088179,0.0026158,0.0160015,0.0117212,0.0158648,-0.00565,-0.0413678,0.0132145,-0.0100972,0.0231725,0.0002409,-0.0129442,-0.00121,0.0021512,-0.001346,-0.0039438,0.002345,0.0038838,-0.0019321,0.0021412,-0.0068834,0.0008382
RUS_MA_south,0.117807,0.1005375,0.045066,0.0285855,0.018157,0.008646,0.0019975,0.0088845,-0.0076695,-0.006014,-0.0014615,-0.003297,0.000595,0.0158955,-0.0093645,-0.0042425,-0.002868,0.0025335,0.0063475,-0.008129,-0.0013725,-0.002473,0.004314,-0.0050605,0.001437
RUS_MA_mixedSlavFinnic,0.1175222,0.0672788,0.0857952,0.0805078,0.0203882,0.018546,0.0094592,0.0128648,-0.0006645,-0.033395,0.0068608,-0.0133755,0.023637,0.014003,-0.0143185,-0.0001325,0.0082795,-0.005954,-0.000534,0.0051585,-0.0005925,-0.004575,0.0,-0.0053622,0.000898
RUS_MA_TurkicNomad,0.075882,-0.1492827,0.0520427,0.015181,-0.041341,-0.0103193,0.0043867,0.010461,-0.010499,-0.010266,-0.0144523,-0.0019483,0.0019823,-0.0089913,0.0010403,-0.0009723,-0.0083013,0.003336,0.009176,0.006795,-0.015223,0.0023903,-0.0066143,-0.001687,-0.001916
Хвала Никац,
Target: K36Alia
Distance: 1.2013% / 0.01201272
29.0 RUS_MA_Baltic
24.4 RUS_Alan_MA
17.4 RUS_MA_viking_Scandinavian
13.2 BEL_MA
6.2 UKR_MA_Viking
5.4 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res
4.4 UKR_MA
Distance to: K36Alia
0.04223270 RUS_MA_south
0.04340379 UKR_MA
0.04550582 RUS_MA_mixedSlavViking
0.04651822 RUS_MA_Slavic
0.05251189 RUS_earlyModern
0.05439192 BEL_MA:BEL024
0.05533267 RUS_MA_viking_Scandinavian
0.06248020 RUS_MA_viking_WestEuro
0.06456799 UKR_MA_Viking
0.06505033 RUS_MA_Baltic
0.08974391 RUS_MA_mixedSlavFinnic
0.11237967 RUS_Alan_MA
0.11535012 UKR_Crimea_Greek
0.12386292 Rus_IA_FinnoUgric
0.14232034 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res
0.22772966 RUS_Nomad_MA
0.28815419 RUS_MA_TurkicNomad
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Хвала Никац,
Target: K36Alia
Distance: 1.2013% / 0.01201272
29.0 RUS_MA_Baltic
24.4 RUS_Alan_MA
17.4 RUS_MA_viking_Scandinavian
13.2 BEL_MA
6.2 UKR_MA_Viking
5.4 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res
4.4 UKR_MA
Distance to: K36Alia
0.04223270 RUS_MA_south
0.04340379 UKR_MA
0.04550582 RUS_MA_mixedSlavViking
0.04651822 RUS_MA_Slavic
0.05251189 RUS_earlyModern
0.05439192 BEL_MA:BEL024
0.05533267 RUS_MA_viking_Scandinavian
0.06248020 RUS_MA_viking_WestEuro
0.06456799 UKR_MA_Viking
0.06505033 RUS_MA_Baltic
0.08974391 RUS_MA_mixedSlavFinnic
0.11237967 RUS_Alan_MA
0.11535012 UKR_Crimea_Greek
0.12386292 Rus_IA_FinnoUgric
0.14232034 RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res
0.22772966 RUS_Nomad_MA
0.28815419 RUS_MA_TurkicNomad
Хвала не постоји у српско-словенском :D Извини, морао сам!
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Хвала не постоји у српско-словенском :D Извини, морао сам!
Не контам ти штос ал ајде нек ти је халал :)
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Ево једноставног модела за балканске нације с прикладним узорцима и малим дистанцама.
прво модел који даје мале дистанце за већину Балканаца:
(https://i.imgur.com/hFAzSC1.png)
DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg - раносредњовјековни Словени из источне Њемачке, истичу се као добар примјер неизмјешаних протословена. И западни и источни Словени се такође могу моделовати с њима.
TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz - рановизантијски Грци из близине Истанбула.
могу се моделовати као мјешавина Микењана/јужних Трачана и узорака из источне Анатолије или Јерменије, као нпр. ови Урарту.
0.011 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz = 51% BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA + 49% TUR_E_Van_Urartian
HRV_EMA_Byzantine - византијска Далмација, узорци углавном из 5. вијека, таман пред долазак Словена
може се моделовати као Илири са снажним утицајима с југа Балкана и из источне Анатолије.
Target: HRV_EMA_Byzantine
Distance: 1.1621% / 0.01162069
52.0 HRV_IA
25.8 TUR_E_Van_Urartian
22.2 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA
Из овог шаблона испадају:
Албанци: код њих је тешко добити добру дистанцу. Помажу раноримски узорци из Србије (Мези). То се поклапа с њиховом Y-ДНК (доминација старобалканских хаплогрупа)
Target: Albanian
Distance: 1.2299% / 0.01229889
47.6 SRB_Roman
31.2 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
21.2 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
Словенци и кајкавски Хрвати:
Target: CroatianKajkavian
Distance: 0.7339% / 0.00733927
63.6 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
36.4 SVN_Emona
Target: Slovenian
Distance: 0.9017% / 0.00901725
60.4 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
39.6 SVN_Emona
код њих је изузетно добра дистанца ако користимо касноримске узорке с налазишта Емона у Словенији.
Емона се може моделовати овако:
Target: SVN_Emona
Distance: 1.1063% / 0.01106256 | R4P
56.4 HUN_IA_La_Tene
34.0 GRC_Marathon_Rom
9.6 SWE_IA
HUN_IA_La_Tene - Панонски Келти
GRC_Marathon_Rom - Грци из римског периода. такође 50/50 микс Микењана и неких блискоисточних утицаја.
SWE_IA - протогермани
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Je li možeš postaviti koordinate ovdje za ove "source"-populacije?
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Je li možeš postaviti koordinate ovdje za ove "source"-populacije?
DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg,0.1292408,0.1278645,0.0744299,0.0667435,0.0442321,0.0231226,0.0087166,0.012545,-0.0003718,-0.0232598,-0.00248,-0.0092645,0.0149742,0.0188792,-0.0083037,0.0013741,0.0066141,-0.0015894,0.0034395,0.003297,-0.0047075,-0.0031365,0.0046274,-0.0053785,0.0002395
HRV_EMA_Byzantine,0.1154355,0.1479288,0.0068825,-0.0278049,0.0215679,-0.012643,0.0006267,0.0002501,0.0032212,0.0207293,-0.0007172,0.0055577,-0.0124378,-0.0015941,-0.0089237,0.0011823,0.0068452,-0.0021643,0.0030065,-0.0046376,-0.0064781,0.0000824,-0.0012325,0.0013958,-0.0000998
TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz,0.1094976,0.1490798,-0.0235326,-0.0587214,0.0054164,-0.0253232,0.000517,-0.0043384,-0.004786,0.0215038,-9.74e-05,0.003117,-0.0048462,0.0014862,-0.0170464,-0.0010872,0.0056584,0.0004306,0.0076426,-0.0054026,-0.005091,0.0020032,-0.0011092,0.002434,-0.0017002
SVN_Emona,0.1203271,0.1434799,0.0241896,-0.0083057,0.0242681,-0.002789,0.0028536,0.0021757,0.0037984,0.0175467,0.0032244,0.005909,-0.0089834,-0.0003146,-0.003044,0.0016857,0.0073573,-0.0006153,0.0018136,0.002019,-0.0006773,0.0013424,0.0024473,0.0036493,-0.0043279
SRB_Roman,0.1211078,0.155376,0.0164426,-0.0259046,0.0304054,-0.009092,0.001081,0.0053538,0.0071176,0.03098,0.0044492,0.0086626,-0.0125172,0.0001374,-0.0160422,-0.0058868,0.0051632,0.0007094,0.0080446,-0.0070784,-0.0091838,0.0022752,-0.0025636,0.0042174,-0.0028738
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Ево Никац, ако можеш да растумачиш. Илира ниђе, али зато повишена SVN_Emona.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KcBsppgt/1.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J48Yf3bv/2.png)
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Ево Никац, ако можеш да растумачиш. Илира ниђе, али зато повишена SVN_Emona.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KcBsppgt/1.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J48Yf3bv/2.png)
Да ли си ове координате симулирао с конвертером који је Душан подијелио на овој теми (чини се да је тај најбољи)?
Ти и иначе добиваш неки германску компненту на сваком калкулатору, Емона има германске примјесе у себи, па је сигурно због тога
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Hvala, Nikac.
Htio sam da usporedim da li postoji razlika ako za ranog Slavena izmijenim Krakauer za AV2. Zanimljivo mi je da sa Krakauer kod mene samo uzima HRV_EMA.
Target: Imota_scaled
Distance: 1.6007% / 0.01600709
63.2 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
36.8 HRV_EMA_Byzantine
A sa AV2 stvari izgledaju već malo drugačije:
Target: Imota_scaled
Distance: 2.0235% / 0.02023492
62.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad
23.2 HRV_EMA_Byzantine
8.8 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
5.8 SVN_Emona
Slovenski dio ostaje isti, ali sa AV2 traži još dodatno nešto sjevernije (SVN_Emona) i nešto istočnije (TUR_Marmara).
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ово су моји резултати
Target: nikac_scaled
Distance: 2.0213% / 0.02021285
54.0 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
36.8 SRB_Roman
9.2 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
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evo mojih
(https://i.ibb.co/hW7R264/aa.png)
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Да ли си ове координате симулирао с конвертером који је Душан подијелио на овој теми (чини се да је тај најбољи)?
Ако мислиш на овај конвертер, да.
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/simulated-g25.aspx
Ти и иначе добиваш неки германску компненту на сваком калкулатору, Емона има германске примјесе у себи, па је сигурно због тога
Рецимо да је то делимичмно тачно. Заправо на већини калкулатора упадам у неки српски просек. А неретко и са благо повишеном медитеранском компонентном. Види се вероватно германски уплаив овде и на још неким калкулаторима старе днк. Опет ми није логично да имам мање "тзв" илирске компоненте овде него Македонци и Бугари. Појела је све SVN_Emona
:D
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Hvala, Nikac.
Htio sam da usporedim da li postoji razlika ako za ranog Slavena izmijenim Krakauer za AV2. Zanimljivo mi je da sa Krakauer kod mene samo uzima HRV_EMA.
Target: Imota_scaled
Distance: 1.6007% / 0.01600709
63.2 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
36.8 HRV_EMA_Byzantine
A sa AV2 stvari izgledaju već malo drugačije:
Target: Imota_scaled
Distance: 2.0235% / 0.02023492
62.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad
23.2 HRV_EMA_Byzantine
8.8 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
5.8 SVN_Emona
Slovenski dio ostaje isti, ali sa AV2 traži još dodatno nešto sjevernije (SVN_Emona) i nešto istočnije (TUR_Marmara).
Мислим да је Krakauer само стабилнији јер се ради о десетак узорака, а AV2 је само један. Иначе су доста слични, AV2 је вјероватно исто неизмјешани миграторни Словен, док је њезина кћерка АV1 на пола локални Панонац.
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Ако мислиш на овај конвертер, да.
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/simulated-g25.aspx
Рецимо да је то делимичмно тачно. Заправо на већини калкулатора упадам у неки српски просек. А неретко и са благо повишеном медитеранском компонентном. Види се вероватно германски уплаив овде и на још неким калкулаторима старе днк. Опет ми није логично да имам мање "тзв" илирске компоненте овде него Македонци и Бугари. Појела је све :D
Ovi simulirani često nadodaju neki nepostojeći germanski upliv. Usporedi moje originalne i simulirane:
Original
Target: Imota_scaled
Distance: 2.0235% / 0.02023492
62.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad
23.2 HRV_EMA_Byzantine
8.8 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
5.8 SVN_Emona
Simulacija:
Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.5469% / 0.01546897
60.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad
26.8 SVN_Emona
11.8 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
1.2 HRV_EMA_Byzantine
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Мислим да је Krakauer само стабилнији јер се ради о десетак узорака, а AV2 је само један. Иначе су доста слични, AV2 је вјероватно исто неизмјешани миграторни Словен, док је њезина кћерка АV1 на пола локални Панонац.
Da, ali zavisa šta podrazumjevaš pod "Panonac". Meni izgleda da je otac AV1 bio iz mješanog braka Slav/Norikum:
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1 (kćer)
Distance: 1.6198% / 0.01619820
76.4 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
21.6 SVN_Emona
2.0 SRB_Roman
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2 (majka)
Distance: 2.7997% / 0.02799750
99.8 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
0.2 SRB_Roman
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Da, ali zavisa šta podrazumjevaš pod "Panonac". Meni izgleda da je otac AV1 bio iz mješanog braka Slav/Norikum:
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1 (kćer)
Distance: 1.6198% / 0.01619820
76.4 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
21.6 SVN_Emona
2.0 SRB_Roman
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2 (majka)
Distance: 2.7997% / 0.02799750
99.8 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
0.2 SRB_Roman
Нисам сад за компјутером, али колико се сјећам може се моделирати 50/50 са Szolad Langobard просјеком и неким од панонских Сармата (transtisza ili Danube-Tisza)
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Нисам сад за компјутером, али колико се сјећам може се моделирати 50/50 са Szolad Langobard просјеком и неким од панонских Сармата (transtisza ili Danube-Tisza)
Možda, ali bi me baš iznenadilo. Pošto znamo da je AV2 majka ovo je šta ostaje za tog dida ili babu sa očeve strane:
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
Distance: 1.5110% / 0.01510967
73.6 HUN_Avar_Szolad
26.4 SVN_Emona
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Možda, ali bi me baš iznenadilo. Pošto znamo da je AV2 majka ovo je šta ostaje za tog dida ili babu sa očeve strane:
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
Distance: 1.5110% / 0.01510967
73.6 HUN_Avar_Szolad
26.4 SVN_Emona
Мислио сам овако нешто.
0.015 HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1 = 64% HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2 + 36% HUN_Sarmatian_Late_Transtisza
0.015 HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1 = 62% HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2 + 38% HUN_MA_Szolad(Langobard)
Сад видим да и у овим моделима доста вуче на страну АV2. Можда је онда ипак АV1 само 1/4 локалац.
ово је иначе алат за 1+1 моделе
https://output.jsbin.com/gojecoh
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Мислио сам овако нешто.
0.015 HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1 = 64% HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2 + 36% HUN_Sarmatian_Late_Transtisza
0.015 HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1 = 62% HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2 + 38% HUN_MA_Szolad(Langobard)
Сад видим да и у овим моделима доста вуче на страну АV2. Можда је онда ипак АV1 само 1/4 локалац.
ово је иначе алат за 1+1 моделе
https://output.jsbin.com/gojecoh
Da, previše ostaje AV2 da otac nebi imao jakog slavenskog upliva. Pored toga mislim da AV1 nema nimalo azijatskog upliva.
Možemo se i malo poigrati sa koordinatima i pretpostaviti da je kćer (AV1) točno presijek majke i oca. Pa sa formulom otac=kći-(majka-kći) dobijemo za njega ove koordinate:
HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1otac,0.126345,0.139128,0.040728,0.03553,0.036006,0.012829,0.006815,0.008077,-0.004295,-0.004738,-0.002111,-0.008543,-0.001636,0.006469,-0.002172,-0.000132,-0.007041,0.001521,-0.001006,0.007253,-0.001872,-0.008284,0.004683,0.000361999999999999,-0.003953
To bi izgledalo ovako:
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1otac
Distance: 0.5414% / 0.00541365 | R5P
41.8 ITA_Chiusi_EMA
21.6 SWE_Gotland_VA
15.0 Baltic_EST_BA
13.8 SWE_LN_low_res
7.8 Bell_Beaker_England_low_res
A sa tvojim modelom:
Target: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1otac
Distance: 2.3938% / 0.02393780
52.8 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
44.8 SVN_Emona
2.4 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
Nešto slično sa K36 koordinatima je napravio Lukasz na Anthrogenici:
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?15081-6th-c-Slavic-women-(Av1-Av2)-buried-according-to-the-custom-of-the-Avars&p=469255&viewfull=1#post469255
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(https://i.imgur.com/lQmBUp9.png)
Мој резултат
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DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg,0.1292408,0.1278645,0.0744299,0.0667435,0.0442321,0.0231226,0.0087166,0.012545,-0.0003718,-0.0232598,-0.00248,-0.0092645,0.0149742,0.0188792,-0.0083037,0.0013741,0.0066141,-0.0015894,0.0034395,0.003297,-0.0047075,-0.0031365,0.0046274,-0.0053785,0.0002395
HRV_EMA_Byzantine,0.1154355,0.1479288,0.0068825,-0.0278049,0.0215679,-0.012643,0.0006267,0.0002501,0.0032212,0.0207293,-0.0007172,0.0055577,-0.0124378,-0.0015941,-0.0089237,0.0011823,0.0068452,-0.0021643,0.0030065,-0.0046376,-0.0064781,0.0000824,-0.0012325,0.0013958,-0.0000998
TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz,0.1094976,0.1490798,-0.0235326,-0.0587214,0.0054164,-0.0253232,0.000517,-0.0043384,-0.004786,0.0215038,-9.74e-05,0.003117,-0.0048462,0.0014862,-0.0170464,-0.0010872,0.0056584,0.0004306,0.0076426,-0.0054026,-0.005091,0.0020032,-0.0011092,0.002434,-0.0017002
SVN_Emona,0.1203271,0.1434799,0.0241896,-0.0083057,0.0242681,-0.002789,0.0028536,0.0021757,0.0037984,0.0175467,0.0032244,0.005909,-0.0089834,-0.0003146,-0.003044,0.0016857,0.0073573,-0.0006153,0.0018136,0.002019,-0.0006773,0.0013424,0.0024473,0.0036493,-0.0043279
SRB_Roman,0.1211078,0.155376,0.0164426,-0.0259046,0.0304054,-0.009092,0.001081,0.0053538,0.0071176,0.03098,0.0044492,0.0086626,-0.0125172,0.0001374,-0.0160422,-0.0058868,0.0051632,0.0007094,0.0080446,-0.0070784,-0.0091838,0.0022752,-0.0025636,0.0042174,-0.0028738
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.5798% / 0.01579839
61.4 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
24.0 SRB_Roman
14.6 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
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Target: Gedzo
Distance: 2.5386% / 0.02538629
40.0 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
26.8 SRB_Roman
22.2 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
11.0 SVN_Emona
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Ко поседује G25 координате, срдачно препоручујем Modern Europe (scaled) - Celtibero рачунач за савремено порекло, на сајту dnagenics.com Мени је макар дао најпоузданију процену од свих које сам испробао до сада...
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Нови модел. мало је "досадан" али обухвата мање-више све компоненете потребне на ширем балканском подручју.
Avar_Asian,0.040621,-0.383934,0.090745,-0.021853,-0.080707,-0.046165,0.016444,0.025456,0.010367,0.012130,-0.014564,0.000197,-0.002476,0.002047,0.002786,0.000858,0.001202,-0.003219,0.002479,0.012881,-0.023342,-0.004220,-0.019727,-0.001273,0.000674
Slavic,0.129151,0.127551,0.075424,0.066430,0.043516,0.024617,0.009432,0.012784,0.001145,-0.022573,-0.002728,-0.008443,0.015213,0.021258,-0.009935,-0.000628,0.004233,-0.000743,0.004492,0.002259,-0.003951,-0.002160,0.005760,-0.005888,0.000535
Dalmatia_Byzantine,0.115436,0.147929,0.006883,-0.027805,0.021568,-0.012643,0.000627,0.000250,0.003221,0.020729,-0.000717,0.005558,-0.012438,-0.001594,-0.008924,0.001182,0.006845,-0.002164,0.003007,-0.004638,-0.006478,0.000082,-0.001233,0.001396,-0.000100
Germanic,0.129282,0.132425,0.064700,0.052661,0.040623,0.019254,0.005850,0.007355,0.002183,-0.002581,-0.004786,0.004316,-0.009001,-0.005430,0.017579,0.006374,-0.005635,0.001555,0.004249,0.004079,0.007280,0.003651,-0.000191,0.011837,0.000329
Indus_Medieval,0.051619,-0.045800,-0.133086,0.098855,-0.069721,0.054886,-0.000717,0.009461,0.026741,0.013987,-0.003581,-0.000345,-0.000022,0.000220,-0.001025,-0.000802,-0.000019,0.000405,0.000704,0.000031,0.000512,-0.001793,0.002588,0.002060,-0.002970
Marmara_Byzantine,0.104013,0.148267,-0.025124,-0.061139,0.006404,-0.023825,0.000906,-0.004868,-0.000925,0.019143,0.004423,0.002098,-0.003794,0.003014,-0.013016,-0.008568,-0.000863,0.001520,0.002765,-0.005949,-0.004112,0.001148,-0.001397,-0.001279,-0.000986
Једино још Албанцима и Грцима (и мени) дистанца пада када се укључи и овај узорак:
Moesian,0.122170,0.161808,0.010434,-0.035099,0.034776,-0.015804,0.000235,0.000154,0.004704,0.035050,0.004384,0.009092,-0.012735,0.000596,-0.022394,-0.004641,0.014777,-0.002576,0.008338,-0.010088,-0.008901,0.005647,-0.004437,0.000723,-0.002634
Па ако неко има дистанцу 2 или више, нека проба укључити и њега.
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мој резултат
Target: nikac_scaled
Distance: 1.7346% / 0.01734606
54.6 Slavic
40.0 Moesian
3.8 Marmara_Byzantine
1.6 Avar_Asian
и званичних просјека с еурогенес блога
(https://i.imgur.com/MI0GZ6v.png)
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Ако изузмемо ових 6.6% Germanic, савршени српски просек. :D
(https://i.postimg.cc/52Kdw6KQ/G25.png)
Коју опцију користиш Никац код Distance | ADC: (0.25, 0.5, 1X, 2X, или без)?
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Ако изузмемо ових 6.6% Germanic, савршени српски просек. :D
(https://i.postimg.cc/52Kdw6KQ/G25.png)
Коју опцију користиш Никац код Distance | ADC: (0.25, 0.5, 1X, 2X, или без)?
ове калкулације које сам поставио су све без ADC.
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ове калкулације које сам поставио су све без ADC.
Такође.
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Distance to: IvicaJovan_scaled
0.06106171 Dalmatia_Byzantine
0.07525434 Germanic
0.08450851 Slavic
0.10669474 Marmara_Byzantine
0.30425704 Indus_Medieval
0.55258648 Avar_Asian
Target: IvicaJovan_scaled
Distance: 1.8087% / 0.01808728
51.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine
43.0 Slavic
5.4 Marmara_Byzantine
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Target: Gedzo
Distance: 2.6902% / 0.02690245
63.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine
36.2 Slavic
0.8 Avar_Asian
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Target: Gedzo
Distance: 2.6902% / 0.02690245
63.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine
36.2 Slavic
0.8 Avar_Asian
можеш прoбати и с Moesian у моделу?
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Ово је модел за старије раздобље, прије етногенезе Словена и ширења Хеленистичког и Римског царства. northwest-Europe су Келти из Чешке, у овом моделу покривају германску, али и илирску и келтску примјесу.
proto-balto-slavic:Baltic_LTU_Marvele,0.134596,0.125672,0.0974855,0.0980308,0.051702,0.0410668,0.0148058,0.0170762,0.0009202,-0.04278,-0.0069012,-0.0167853,0.0307358,0.0372612,-0.010145,-0.0023868,-0.0002933,-0.0015205,0.0020425,0.006378,-0.0041178,-0.0037715,0.0086888,-0.0176527,-0.0012572
Iranic_Steppe:RUS_Caspian_steppe_Sarmatian,0.1115467,0.0473917,0.0349467,0.065246,-0.0283642,0.0267272,3.92e-05,0.001,-0.0299627,-0.036599,-0.0038432,-0.003072,-0.003419,-0.025162,0.0197472,0.0128393,-0.0027163,-0.0023648,-0.0046928,0.001709,-0.0106478,0.0048843,0.0001437,0.0066473,0.0030537
West_Anatolia_antiquity:TUR_C_Gordion_Anc,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
EastAsian_Steppe:Avar_Asian,0.040621,-0.383934,0.090745,-0.021853,-0.080707,-0.046165,0.016444,0.025456,0.010367,0.012130,-0.014564,0.000197,-0.002476,0.002047,0.002786,0.000858,0.001202,-0.003219,0.002479,0.012881,-0.023342,-0.004220,-0.019727,-0.001273,0.000674
northwest-Europe:CZE_IA_La_Tene,0.1284778,0.1377312,0.0579352,0.0361356,0.0412615,0.0101586,0.0027613,0.0036806,0.0074396,0.01031,-0.0033128,0.0050467,-0.01235,-0.0093514,0.008815,0.0062748,-0.0002836,0.0016817,0.0011124,0.0031359,0.0036311,0.0030264,-0.0021814,0.0015634,-0.0011615
Uralic:RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA,0.037562,-0.424491,0.154997,0.001938,-0.14495,-0.085341,0.019506,0.031845,0.028633,0.005832,0.086878,-0.00015,0.011298,-0.04803,-0.045466,-0.027711,0.000261,0.006714,0.004148,-0.009379,0.026204,0.001607,0.002218,0.004338,0.008502
south-Thracian:BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA,0.1206523,0.1614692,0.0083593,-0.0527028,0.0323137,-0.0258903,0.001645,-0.0029232,0.012033,0.0480497,0.0018675,0.0096915,-0.0182605,0.0016517,-0.023525,-0.0100547,0.011213,0.0040962,0.0112082,-0.0087542,-0.010024,0.0014218,-0.0033688,0.001044,-0.0068658
Target: nikac_scaled
Distance: 1.6922% / 0.01692195
42.2 proto-balto-slavic
38.6 south-Thracian
9.2 West_Anatolia
8.2 northwest-Europe
1.8 EastAsian_Steppe
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Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.6640% / 0.01664050
59.4 Slavic
33.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine
6.4 Marmara_Byzantine
0.8 Avar_Asian
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.2887% / 0.01288694
60.6 Slavic
30.2 Moesian
7.6 Marmara_Byzantine
1.6 Avar_Asian
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можеш прoбати и с Moesian у моделу?
Target: Gedzo
Distance: 2.5201% / 0.02520142
36.4 Slavic
32.6 Moesian
30.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine
0.6 Avar_Asian
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Target: Gedzo
Distance: 2.2976% / 0.02297570
48.8 south-Thracian
29.0 proto-balto-slavic
13.4 West_Anatolia_antiquity
8.8 Iranic_Steppe
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Distance: 2.5411% / 0.02541102
58.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine
41.8 Slavic
Prosecno za Crnogorca?
Distance: 2.6705% / 0.02670471
32.2 proto-balto-slavic
25.8 West_Anatolia_antiquity
21.0 northwest-Europe
21.0 south-Thracian
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Distance: 2.5411% / 0.02541102
58.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine
41.8 Slavic
Prosecno za Crnogorca?
Distance: 2.6705% / 0.02670471
32.2 proto-balto-slavic
25.8 West_Anatolia_antiquity
21.0 northwest-Europe
21.0 south-Thracian
рекао бих да јесте
(https://i.imgur.com/yKa2PzR.png)
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DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg,0.1292408,0.1278645,0.0744299,0.0667435,0.0442321,0.0231226,0.0087166,0.012545,-0.0003718,-0.0232598,-0.00248,-0.0092645,0.0149742,0.0188792,-0.0083037,0.0013741,0.0066141,-0.0015894,0.0034395,0.003297,-0.0047075,-0.0031365,0.0046274,-0.0053785,0.0002395
HRV_EMA_Byzantine,0.1154355,0.1479288,0.0068825,-0.0278049,0.0215679,-0.012643,0.0006267,0.0002501,0.0032212,0.0207293,-0.0007172,0.0055577,-0.0124378,-0.0015941,-0.0089237,0.0011823,0.0068452,-0.0021643,0.0030065,-0.0046376,-0.0064781,0.0000824,-0.0012325,0.0013958,-0.0000998
TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz,0.1094976,0.1490798,-0.0235326,-0.0587214,0.0054164,-0.0253232,0.000517,-0.0043384,-0.004786,0.0215038,-9.74e-05,0.003117,-0.0048462,0.0014862,-0.0170464,-0.0010872,0.0056584,0.0004306,0.0076426,-0.0054026,-0.005091,0.0020032,-0.0011092,0.002434,-0.0017002
SVN_Emona,0.1203271,0.1434799,0.0241896,-0.0083057,0.0242681,-0.002789,0.0028536,0.0021757,0.0037984,0.0175467,0.0032244,0.005909,-0.0089834,-0.0003146,-0.003044,0.0016857,0.0073573,-0.0006153,0.0018136,0.002019,-0.0006773,0.0013424,0.0024473,0.0036493,-0.0043279
SRB_Roman,0.1211078,0.155376,0.0164426,-0.0259046,0.0304054,-0.009092,0.001081,0.0053538,0.0071176,0.03098,0.0044492,0.0086626,-0.0125172,0.0001374,-0.0160422,-0.0058868,0.0051632,0.0007094,0.0080446,-0.0070784,-0.0091838,0.0022752,-0.0025636,0.0042174,-0.0028738
Са правим координатама :)
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.7502% / 0.02750189
56.8 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
35.0 SRB_Roman
8.2 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
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Нови модел. мало је "досадан" али обухвата мање-више све компоненете потребне на ширем балканском подручју.
Avar_Asian,0.040621,-0.383934,0.090745,-0.021853,-0.080707,-0.046165,0.016444,0.025456,0.010367,0.012130,-0.014564,0.000197,-0.002476,0.002047,0.002786,0.000858,0.001202,-0.003219,0.002479,0.012881,-0.023342,-0.004220,-0.019727,-0.001273,0.000674
Slavic,0.129151,0.127551,0.075424,0.066430,0.043516,0.024617,0.009432,0.012784,0.001145,-0.022573,-0.002728,-0.008443,0.015213,0.021258,-0.009935,-0.000628,0.004233,-0.000743,0.004492,0.002259,-0.003951,-0.002160,0.005760,-0.005888,0.000535
Dalmatia_Byzantine,0.115436,0.147929,0.006883,-0.027805,0.021568,-0.012643,0.000627,0.000250,0.003221,0.020729,-0.000717,0.005558,-0.012438,-0.001594,-0.008924,0.001182,0.006845,-0.002164,0.003007,-0.004638,-0.006478,0.000082,-0.001233,0.001396,-0.000100
Germanic,0.129282,0.132425,0.064700,0.052661,0.040623,0.019254,0.005850,0.007355,0.002183,-0.002581,-0.004786,0.004316,-0.009001,-0.005430,0.017579,0.006374,-0.005635,0.001555,0.004249,0.004079,0.007280,0.003651,-0.000191,0.011837,0.000329
Indus_Medieval,0.051619,-0.045800,-0.133086,0.098855,-0.069721,0.054886,-0.000717,0.009461,0.026741,0.013987,-0.003581,-0.000345,-0.000022,0.000220,-0.001025,-0.000802,-0.000019,0.000405,0.000704,0.000031,0.000512,-0.001793,0.002588,0.002060,-0.002970
Marmara_Byzantine,0.104013,0.148267,-0.025124,-0.061139,0.006404,-0.023825,0.000906,-0.004868,-0.000925,0.019143,0.004423,0.002098,-0.003794,0.003014,-0.013016,-0.008568,-0.000863,0.001520,0.002765,-0.005949,-0.004112,0.001148,-0.001397,-0.001279,-0.000986
Једино још Албанцима и Грцима (и мени) дистанца пада када се укључи и овај узорак:
Moesian,0.122170,0.161808,0.010434,-0.035099,0.034776,-0.015804,0.000235,0.000154,0.004704,0.035050,0.004384,0.009092,-0.012735,0.000596,-0.022394,-0.004641,0.014777,-0.002576,0.008338,-0.010088,-0.008901,0.005647,-0.004437,0.000723,-0.002634
Па ако неко има дистанцу 2 или више, нека проба укључити и њега.
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4940% / 0.02494041
60.6 Slavic
25.2 Moesian
13.4 Marmara_Byzantine
0.8 Avar_Asian
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Мој резултат:
Distance to: kocovic_scaled
0.02269092 SVN_Emona
0.02411145 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
0.02734474 HRV_North_Roman
0.03305998 HUN_MA_Szolad_Local
0.03617911 HRV_LateAntiquity
0.03660721 SRB_Roman
0.03774347 HRV_Roman
0.04850625 MNE_Roman
0.05415152 HUN_Avar_Gepidian
0.08123806 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
0.08596220 HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
0.09252482 GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.09374356 BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
0.09754003 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
0.10093372 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
0.11803590 SVN_Germanic:R10474
0.13144481 HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian
0.32751381 IND_Roopkund_A
0.34187972 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
Target: kocovic_scaled
Distance: 0.9845% / 0.00984519
47.4 SRB_Roman
16.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
15.0 TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
12.6 SRB_Roman_MiddleEast
5.0 HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
2.8 GRC_Marathon_Rom
1.0 ROU_Ploiesti_MA
Други калкулатор:
Distance to: kocovic_scaled
0.02418043 SVN_Emona
0.03554232 SRB_Roman
0.03617911 HRV_EMA_Byzantine
0.07900368 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
0.10850630 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
Target: kocovic_scaled
Distance: 0.9763% / 0.00976318
42.8 SRB_Roman
29.8 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
27.4 TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
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(https://i.imgur.com/UpqDFET.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/wa0Q7qr.png)
credits @Ивица Јовановић
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Rimljani_Bliski_Istok:Balkan_Imperial_Roman,0.102213,0.1450176,-0.0333374,-0.060401,-0.0040622,-0.021586,-0.0031962,-0.0053998,-0.0075266,0.01549,0.00328,0.0037168,0.0027354,-0.0021194,-0.0099616,-0.000371,0.0102222,-0.000684,0.0053798,-0.004227,-0.006813,0.0010634,-0.0033276,-0.0007712,-0.000551
Iliri:HRV_IA,0.1236404,0.1502982,0.0387492,0.0012112,0.0370838,-0.0017779,0.0004994,0.001298,0.012885,0.0267432,-0.0022126,0.0079805,-0.0120787,-0.0053156,-0.0038511,-0.000232,0.001695,0.0025813,0.0030796,-0.0008911,-0.0022305,0.0031379,-0.0035125,-0.0016719,-0.0013321
Tračani:BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA,0.1206523,0.1614692,0.0083593,-0.0527028,0.0323137,-0.0258903,0.001645,-0.0029232,0.012033,0.0480497,0.0018675,0.0096915,-0.0182605,0.0016517,-0.023525,-0.0100547,0.011213,0.0040962,0.0112082,-0.0087542,-0.010024,0.0014218,-0.0033688,0.001044,-0.0068658
Sarmati:RUS_Caspian_steppe_Sarmatian,0.1115467,0.0473917,0.0349467,0.065246,-0.0283642,0.0267272,3.92e-05,0.001,-0.0299627,-0.036599,-0.0038432,-0.003072,-0.003419,-0.025162,0.0197472,0.0128393,-0.0027163,-0.0023648,-0.0046928,0.001709,-0.0106478,0.0048843,0.0001437,0.0066473,0.0030537
Zapadna/sjeverna_Evropa:CZE_IA_La_Tene,0.1284778,0.1377312,0.0579352,0.0361356,0.0412615,0.0101586,0.0027613,0.0036806,0.0074396,0.01031,-0.0033128,0.0050467,-0.01235,-0.0093514,0.008815,0.0062748,-0.0002836,0.0016817,0.0011124,0.0031359,0.0036311,0.0030264,-0.0021814,0.0015634,-0.0011615
Sloveni:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg,0.1292408,0.1278645,0.0744299,0.0667435,0.0442321,0.0231226,0.0087166,0.012545,-0.0003718,-0.0232598,-0.00248,-0.0092645,0.0149742,0.0188792,-0.0083037,0.0013741,0.0066141,-0.0015894,0.0034395,0.003297,-0.0047075,-0.0031365,0.0046274,-0.0053785,0.0002395
Мој резултат, али је дистанца нешто већа
Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 3.0939% / 0.03093916
54.2 Sloveni
36.2 Tračani
9.6 Rimljani_Bliski_Istok
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Моји рез. према моделу који је поставио Никац
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wzdfrc6M/G3.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MTPFvpR6/G2.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCTZfzXp/G1.png)
Занима ме да ли ће се још некоме одавде појавити овај проценат "западна/северна Европа".
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Rimljani_Bliski_Istok:Balkan_Imperial_Roman,0.102213,0.1450176,-0.0333374,-0.060401,-0.0040622,-0.021586,-0.0031962,-0.0053998,-0.0075266,0.01549,0.00328,0.0037168,0.0027354,-0.0021194,-0.0099616,-0.000371,0.0102222,-0.000684,0.0053798,-0.004227,-0.006813,0.0010634,-0.0033276,-0.0007712,-0.000551
Iliri:HRV_IA,0.1236404,0.1502982,0.0387492,0.0012112,0.0370838,-0.0017779,0.0004994,0.001298,0.012885,0.0267432,-0.0022126,0.0079805,-0.0120787,-0.0053156,-0.0038511,-0.000232,0.001695,0.0025813,0.0030796,-0.0008911,-0.0022305,0.0031379,-0.0035125,-0.0016719,-0.0013321
Tračani:BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA,0.1206523,0.1614692,0.0083593,-0.0527028,0.0323137,-0.0258903,0.001645,-0.0029232,0.012033,0.0480497,0.0018675,0.0096915,-0.0182605,0.0016517,-0.023525,-0.0100547,0.011213,0.0040962,0.0112082,-0.0087542,-0.010024,0.0014218,-0.0033688,0.001044,-0.0068658
Sarmati:RUS_Caspian_steppe_Sarmatian,0.1115467,0.0473917,0.0349467,0.065246,-0.0283642,0.0267272,3.92e-05,0.001,-0.0299627,-0.036599,-0.0038432,-0.003072,-0.003419,-0.025162,0.0197472,0.0128393,-0.0027163,-0.0023648,-0.0046928,0.001709,-0.0106478,0.0048843,0.0001437,0.0066473,0.0030537
Zapadna/sjeverna_Evropa:CZE_IA_La_Tene,0.1284778,0.1377312,0.0579352,0.0361356,0.0412615,0.0101586,0.0027613,0.0036806,0.0074396,0.01031,-0.0033128,0.0050467,-0.01235,-0.0093514,0.008815,0.0062748,-0.0002836,0.0016817,0.0011124,0.0031359,0.0036311,0.0030264,-0.0021814,0.0015634,-0.0011615
Sloveni:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg,0.1292408,0.1278645,0.0744299,0.0667435,0.0442321,0.0231226,0.0087166,0.012545,-0.0003718,-0.0232598,-0.00248,-0.0092645,0.0149742,0.0188792,-0.0083037,0.0013741,0.0066141,-0.0015894,0.0034395,0.003297,-0.0047075,-0.0031365,0.0046274,-0.0053785,0.0002395
(https://i.imgur.com/r8B7EV6.png)
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Покушајте овај модел за бронзано доба:
https://pastebin.com/raw/FqBEDh58 (https://pastebin.com/raw/FqBEDh58)
Distance to: kocovic_scaled
0.03475736 Paeonian:I10385
0.03723160 Paeonian:I10384
0.03835408 Paeonian:I10388
0.04510655 Paeonian:I8112
0.04880905 Paeonian:I10379
Target: kocovic_scaled
Distance: 0.4109% / 0.00410944
26.0 Thracian
21.8 Paeonian
19.6 Baltic_Bronze_Age
10.0 Anatolian
8.4 Phoenician
5.6 Continental_Celt
2.4 Etruscan
2.4 Greek
2.2 Scythian
1.6 Iron_Age_Scandinavian
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Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 1.6998% / 0.01699800
44.4 Thracian
37.2 Baltic_Bronze_Age
8.6 Anatolian
6.4 Continental_Celt
2.0 Phoenician
0.8 Paeonian
0.6 Scythian
Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 1.8047% / 0.01804743 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 Thracian
36.4 Baltic_Bronze_Age
14.6 Etruscan
8.6 Phoenician
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Покушајте овај модел за бронзано доба:
https://pastebin.com/raw/FqBEDh58 (https://pastebin.com/raw/FqBEDh58)
Distance to: kocovic_scaled
0.03475736 Paeonian:I10385
0.03723160 Paeonian:I10384
0.03835408 Paeonian:I10388
0.04510655 Paeonian:I8112
0.04880905 Paeonian:I10379
Target: kocovic_scaled
Distance: 0.4109% / 0.00410944
26.0 Thracian
21.8 Paeonian
19.6 Baltic_Bronze_Age
10.0 Anatolian
8.4 Phoenician
5.6 Continental_Celt
2.4 Etruscan
2.4 Greek
2.2 Scythian
1.6 Iron_Age_Scandinavian
(https://i.postimg.cc/26J8GNMz/1.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d3yQSScG/2.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5jW9cqfT/3.png)
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Target: IvicaJovanovic_scaled
Distance: 0.9119% / 0.00911895
29.0 Baltic_Bronze_Age
23.2 Thracian
16.4 Anatolian
13.8 Paeonian
10.2 Scythian
5.2 Iron_Age_Scandinavian
1.8 Phoenician
0.4 Continental_Celt
Distance to: IvicaJovanovic_scaled
0.04671969 Paeonian:I10385
0.05105855 Paeonian:I10384
0.05273097 Etruscan:CAM002
0.05720261 Continental_Celt:Hallstatt_I15071
0.05752109 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I17314
0.05766401 Paeonian:I10388
0.05770634 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I15048
0.05787189 Continental_Celt:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.05846368 Paeonian:I8112
0.05854285 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I15043
0.05999306 Continental_Celt:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.06052907 Continental_Celt:Hallstatt_I16327
0.06087685 Scythian:Ukraine_scy010_noUDG.SG
0.06126185 Paeonian:I10389
0.06339140 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I15951
0.06360343 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I14985
0.06367466 Continental_Celt:Gaul_I21931
0.06500527 Paeonian:I10383
0.06526295 Continental_Celt:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.06575739 Continental_Celt:Hallstatt_I14983
0.06601592 Continental_Celt:Gaul_I21402
0.06604182 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I14984
0.06762925 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I17143
0.06794845 Etruscan:PRZ002
0.06798003 Paeonian:I10379
Кочо, толико си стари Балканац да је то невероватно. Како ти се поклопило то некако по свим линијама да си на неких 20-24% Slavic, што је мноооого мање од рецимо оног средњевековног узорка из Македоније (Macedonia_Medieval:I2530).
Ово су његови резултати у том калкулатору што си поставио:
Distance to: Macedonia_Medieval:I2530
0.13889038 Scythian:Ukraine_scy011_noUDG.SG
0.17871034 Continental_Celt:Gaul_I21931
0.18114444 Paeonian:I10385
0.18333772 Etruscan:CAM002
0.18353065 Insular_Celt:England_LIA_I19870
0.18426768 Scythian:Ukraine_scy010_noUDG.SG
0.18579014 Continental_Celt:Hallstatt_I16327
0.18705686 Paeonian:I8112
0.18805512 Anatolian:Hellenistic_I6574
0.18832498 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I15048
0.18944752 Continental_Celt:Hallstatt_DA112_noUDG.SG
0.18950441 Paeonian:I10389
0.18984806 Continental_Celt:Gaul_I21402
0.19071255 Paeonian:I10384
0.19072516 Iron_Age_Scandinavian:RISE174_noUDG.SG
0.19203338 Anatolian:Iron_Age_I4029_noUDG
0.19260608 Paeonian:I10388
0.19270498 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I14985
0.19291171 Anatolian:Hellenistic_I4472
0.19301627 Continental_Celt:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.19317028 Continental_Celt:Czech_La_Tene_I17314
0.19336115 Continental_Celt:Hallstatt_I15071
0.19348591 Phoenician:Hellenistic_SFI-20_noUDG.SG
0.19358411 Continental_Celt:Gaul_I20815
0.19479791 Insular_Celt:England_EIA_I11149
Target: Macedonia_Medieval:I2530
Distance: 12.5533% / 0.12553291
74.0 Scythian
26.0 Egyptian
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Покушајте овај модел за бронзано доба:
https://pastebin.com/raw/FqBEDh58 (https://pastebin.com/raw/FqBEDh58)
Distance to: kocovic_scaled
0.03475736 Paeonian:I10385
0.03723160 Paeonian:I10384
0.03835408 Paeonian:I10388
0.04510655 Paeonian:I8112
0.04880905 Paeonian:I10379
Target: kocovic_scaled
Distance: 0.4109% / 0.00410944
26.0 Thracian
21.8 Paeonian
19.6 Baltic_Bronze_Age
10.0 Anatolian
8.4 Phoenician
5.6 Continental_Celt
2.4 Etruscan
2.4 Greek
2.2 Scythian
1.6 Iron_Age_Scandinavian
(https://i.imgur.com/aBVuXpW.png)
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Кочо, толико си стари Балканац да је то невероватно. Како ти се поклопило то некако по свим линијама да си на неких 20-24% Slavic, што је мноооого мање од рецимо оног средњевековног узорка из Македоније (Macedonia_Medieval:I2530).
Буквално сваки тест који покренем не могу да пробијем баријеру од 40%. Уопште то нисам ово очекивао кад сам урадио ДНК тест. Требало ми је једно месец или два да прихватим да сам само 15-25% Балто-Словен, узевши оно што знам о својим прецима.
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Буквално сваки тест који покренем не могу да пробијем баријеру од 40%. Уопште то нисам ово очекивао кад сам урадио ДНК тест. Требало ми је једно месец или два да прихватим да сам само 15-25% Балто-Словен, узевши оно што знам о својим прецима.
Мислим да то није нешто драматично, узевши у обзир да Македонија ни по Y-ДНК није нека изразито словенска област. У неким крајевима I2 и R1a у комбинацији једва да прелазе 30%.
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Покушајте овај модел за бронзано доба:
https://pastebin.com/raw/FqBEDh58 (https://pastebin.com/raw/FqBEDh58)
Distance to: kocovic_scaled
0.03475736 Paeonian:I10385
0.03723160 Paeonian:I10384
0.03835408 Paeonian:I10388
0.04510655 Paeonian:I8112
0.04880905 Paeonian:I10379
Target: kocovic_scaled
Distance: 0.4109% / 0.00410944
26.0 Thracian
21.8 Paeonian
19.6 Baltic_Bronze_Age
10.0 Anatolian
8.4 Phoenician
5.6 Continental_Celt
2.4 Etruscan
2.4 Greek
2.2 Scythian
1.6 Iron_Age_Scandinavian
Резултати мене и човјека из Украјине с четвртином лезгинских коријена.
(https://share-your-photo.com/img/d4e43f7d55.jpg)
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Резултати мене и човјека из Украјине с четвртином лезгинских коријена.
(https://share-your-photo.com/img/d4e43f7d55.jpg)
Украјинац са руским коренима (или белоруским како вам се више свиђа) и даљим црноморским Грчким пореклом:
Target: M_scaled
Distance: 0.9573% / 0.00957258
51.0 Baltic_Bronze_Age
18.4 Continental_Celt
13.0 Scythian
10.4 Paeonian
3.4 Thracian
2.8 Iron_Age_Scandinavian
0.8 Etruscan
0.2 Egyptian