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mihajlo:
Thank you for your numbers and your FTDNA.

I would say that you have a slightly higher northern/north eastern european (slavic) DNA than my mother. This is well represented by the north eurasian and the siberian in eurogenes and dodecad as well as the "Orcadian" at FTDNA since northern and eastern slavic people have higher numbers of eurasian and siberian as what I saw.

Have you uploaded your raw data at gedmatch.com ?

By the way, I did not mention that the results are from my mother ( I didnt post my own results because my father is French)

No, the writings are from me, from the interpretations that I learned from other results I compared and from other discussions I had on different forums since 2 years ago.

Douglas Mcdonald also sent with the chromosome painting his interpretation with these numbers of population similarity :

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
   
Poland= 0.473     Tuscan= 0.527 or
   Germany= 0.303    Romania= 0.697 or
   English= 0.331    Romania= 0.669 or
    Poland= 0.237    Romania= 0.763 or
   Hungary= 0.736     Tuscan= 0.264 or
     Irish= 0.254    Romania= 0.746 or
     Irish= 0.500     Tuscan= 0.500 or
    Poland= 0.603     Sicily= 0.397 or
Lithuania= 0.398     Tuscan= 0.602 or
   Hungary= 0.826     Sicily= 0.174

Second most likely fit is 78.2% (+-  8.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 21.8% (+-  8.4%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
 
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
    French= 0.841     Adygei= 0.159 or
   Germany= 0.695     Jewish= 0.305 or
    French= 0.889    Iranian= 0.111 or
   English= 0.725     Jewish= 0.275 or
    Poland= 0.623     Jewish= 0.377 or
   English= 0.788   Armenian= 0.212 or
    French= 0.874   Georgian= 0.126 or
   Germany= 0.789      Druze= 0.211 or
   Germany= 0.730  Sephardic= 0.270 or
    French= 0.868    Turkish= 0.132

Douglas said that the population set are normal for a Serbian and there is explanation for the extra segments of east asian that they likely appeared during the time frame of ottoman times with population displacement and contact with turkic people like the Tatar, in some cases.

The second likely fit of population is almost the same as the result at FTDNA I posted.


My mother also plot correctly among balkan people as you can see on that PCA map by Doug. Usually, Serbians, plot within Romanians and Hungarians samples or closer to One of the two, it depends.




I can also link results from other Serbians at 23andme but I feel guilty because they are not from my family.


Александар Невски:

--- Цитат: mihajlo  Август 26, 2013, 05:50:29 поподне ---Thank you for your numbers and your FTDNA.

I would say that you have a slightly higher northern/north eastern european (slavic) DNA than my mother. This is well represented by the north eurasian and the siberian in eurogenes and dodecad as well as the "Orcadian" at FTDNA since northern and eastern slavic people have higher numbers of eurasian and siberian as what I saw.

--- Крај цитата ---

Depends on calculator. I noticed your mother have north european on globe13 46.4%, more than me (44.28%) and also more than serb median (44.4) on Dodecad. Similar is on weac 2 (your mother 67.7, I 65.86, serb median 66.6).

globe13

Siberian 1.17
Amerindian 0.00
West_African 0.00
Palaeo_African 0.07
Southwest_Asian 9.89
East_Asian 0.42
Mediterranean 32.12
Australasian 0.10
Arctic 0.21
West_Asian 11.62
North_European 44.28
South_Asian 0.09
East_African 0.02

Serb_D 6 узорака 0 0 0 0 9.2 0.1 31.2 0 0 15 44.4 0 0


weac2

Palaeoafrican 0.09
Atlantic_Baltic 65.86
Northeast_Asian 1.70
Near_East 29.72
Sub_Saharan 0.00
South_Asian 2.34
Southeast_Asian 0.29

Serb_D 5 узорака 0 66.6 1 29.2 0 3.1 0.1



--- Цитат: mihajlo  Август 26, 2013, 05:50:29 поподне ---Have you uploaded your raw data at gedmatch.com ?

--- Крај цитата ---

Yes, I have. I shall sent you my number in private message.


--- Цитат: mihajlo  Август 26, 2013, 05:50:29 поподне ---By the way, I did not mention that the results are from my mother ( I didnt post my own results because my father is French)

No, the writings are from me, from the interpretations that I learned from other results I compared and from other discussions I had on different forums since 2 years ago.

Douglas Mcdonald also sent with the chromosome painting his interpretation with these numbers of population similarity :

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
   
Poland= 0.473     Tuscan= 0.527 or
   Germany= 0.303    Romania= 0.697 or
   English= 0.331    Romania= 0.669 or
    Poland= 0.237    Romania= 0.763 or
   Hungary= 0.736     Tuscan= 0.264 or
     Irish= 0.254    Romania= 0.746 or
     Irish= 0.500     Tuscan= 0.500 or
    Poland= 0.603     Sicily= 0.397 or
Lithuania= 0.398     Tuscan= 0.602 or
   Hungary= 0.826     Sicily= 0.174

Second most likely fit is 78.2% (+-  8.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 21.8% (+-  8.4%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
 
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
    French= 0.841     Adygei= 0.159 or
   Germany= 0.695     Jewish= 0.305 or
    French= 0.889    Iranian= 0.111 or
   English= 0.725     Jewish= 0.275 or
    Poland= 0.623     Jewish= 0.377 or
   English= 0.788   Armenian= 0.212 or
    French= 0.874   Georgian= 0.126 or
   Germany= 0.789      Druze= 0.211 or
   Germany= 0.730  Sephardic= 0.270 or
    French= 0.868    Turkish= 0.132

Douglas said that the population set are normal for a Serbian and there is explanation for the extra segments of east asian that they likely appeared during the time frame of ottoman times with population displacement and contact with turkic people like the Tatar, in some cases.

The second likely fit of population is almost the same as the result at FTDNA I posted.


My mother also plot correctly among balkan people as you can see on that PCA map by Doug. Usually, Serbians, plot within Romanians and Hungarians samples or closer to One of the two, it depends.



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Thanks you very much this, I searched internet for days for such painting with serb result. I saw many of such paintings, but not with serb. It look to me like I thought it to be, after comparing results on dodecad for serbs and me. I expected serbs should be beetween Romanians and Hungarians, but closer to first. I had noticed Serbs had more north europe than Romanians, but much less than Hungarians.


--- Цитат: mihajlo  Август 26, 2013, 05:50:29 поподне ---I can also link results from other Serbians at 23andme but I feel guilty because they are not from my family.

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Please link it. It would be very interesting, especially if you know from where they are. Especially graphs like this!

Question for you. Do you know Y-haplogruop of your mother's family? And mtDNA haplogroup of hers?

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