И још ми је интересантна хаплогрупа R1a-Z93 које су се пронашле у Мађарској и Бугарској у перидоу између 2100 и 1600. г. п. н. е. Зар није претпоставка да се ова грана у том периоду налазила у подручју Закарптја и почела да учествује у етногенези Словена.
R1a-Z93 није учествовала у етногеннези Словена.
Супер . Је ли учествовала у етногензи на неком другоме подручју или је изумрла ?
Шта мислите како су текле миграције ове R1a ?И да напоменем за ово питање R1b да ми неко одговори.
Зна ли неко нешто о овоме:https://sedemosmi.tv/production/студио-хъ-светослав-стамов-18-август-2020-г/New aDNA Samples from what looks like The Thracians of Iron age Bulgaria were announced recently. Coming of the Sites (Svilengrad, Kapitan Andreevo). The Results were Rich in E-M78 mutations: 1. Sample was assigned to E-V13 level.2. Samples were assigned to E-L618 level.3. Sample was assigned to only E Level.This However wasn't officially published yet, only Mentioned briefly as a leaks in a Video concerned about the origins of current day Bulgarians.
Зна ли неко нешто о овоме:
Сега като загледах хаплогрупа I осъзнах че не Genefan а аз се бъркам. Първата таблица която Стамов без да иска пусна и веднага махна изглежда е по нова версия на дървото а втората която след това пусна е по стара и така резултатите са:Bulgaria_EBA Kazanlak, Tell Kran I2a1a1b U2e1a https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-S21825/Bulgaria_EBA Kazanlak, Tell Kran I2a1a2b U8b1b https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-L621/ ???Динарик???Bulgaria_EBA Kazanlak, Tell Kran I2a1b1a2a K1c1 https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-L701/Bulgaria_BeliBreyag_EBA Stara Zagora, Beli Breyag I2a1b https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-M436/Bulgaria_EBA_oNon... R1b1a1b1a1 W https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L52/Bulgaria_EBA_oNon... R1b1a1b1b T2b2 https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2103/Bulgaria_EBA R1b1a1b U5a2b https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M269/Bulgaria_EIA Kapitan Andreevo E1b1b1a1b1a https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-V13/Bulgaria_EIA Kapitan Andreevo E1b1b1a1b1 https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-L618/Bulgaria E https://www.yfull.com/tree/E/Bulgaria E1b1b1a1b1 https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-L618/Bulgaria Q1a2a(Самоводене/880-920 сл.н.е) https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L53/
Probably much more interesting (but possibly a mistake) is the earliest reported “Dinaric” I2-L621, also among Early Bronze Age individuals from Bulgaria, which – if confirmed when samples are released – would mean that the most likely common haplogroup associated with Early Slavs was already there among the Yamnaya 5,000 years ago.
Можда ће I2-L621 преименовати у "старопланиник"? I2-L621 је настао пре око 11400 година, ако се потврди да SEEurope11 стар око 5000 година припада овој хаплогрупи, питање је где се налази у односу на I2-CTS10936, I2-CTS4002, I2-CTS10228 и I-Y3120.
We generated genome-wide data from almost all individuals retrieved from the Potočani mass burial (n = 38). The genotypes have been deposited for public access to the Reich lab website (https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/datasets) and the aligned sequences to the EMBL Nucleotide Sequence Database (ENA) with the accession number PRJEB42243. Our analysis of 93% of the individuals shows that the ancestry of the people there was homogeneous. Principal Component Analysis reveals that the analyzed individuals are slightly shifted from the Anatolia Neolithic cluster in the direction of Western European hunter-gatherers, similar to other Middle to Late Neolithic European farmers before the arrival of steppe ancestry, but especially to those from Eastern Europe (Fig 3A). We confirm this pattern by successfully modelling the Potočani individuals as a mixture of predominantly Anatolian Neolithic ancestry with ~9% Western European hunter-gatherer ancestry (Fig 3B), without any evidence of steppe-related ancestry. This is further supported by the presence of paternal lineages typical of Balkan Neolithic populations (G2, I2 and C-V20), and the absence of lineages typical of steppe expansions (R1a and R1b-M269). Overall, our analysis of uniparental markers identifies 30 different mitochondrial lineages and six different Y-chromosome lineages, suggesting that the Potočani victims belonged to a large community with a diverse pool of female lineages.
Genome-wide analysis of nearly all the victims of a 6200 year old massacre
Да ли је мој енглески офалио или неки детаљи иду на воденицу аутохтониста? Мислим првенствено на I2?
Нисам гледао појединачне резултате, али разлика између I2 и нпр I2-L621 је огромна.