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--- Цитат: Никац Децембар 12, 2022, 09:56:27 пре подне ---Јесте. Овдје би требали бити сви релевантни узорци за западни Балкан у доба доесељења Словена:

--- Код: ---BGR_RomByz(Thracian),0.114961,0.180764,0.000754,-0.055556,0.023081,-0.02008,-0.00611,0.000462,0.017998,0.043737,-0.008607,0.001649,-0.024678,-0.017616,-0.021444,-0.00716,0.020079,-0.013302,-0.006913,-0.004752,-0.013227,0.016075,-0.006655,0.023377,-0.008981
GRC_Marathon_Rom,0.104717,0.146236,-0.02753,-0.065569,-0.000308,-0.023985,0.00188,-0.004846,-0.003068,0.005467,0.014615,0.001349,0.001338,0.001514,-0.009772,0.012066,0.024773,-0.008235,0.008296,-0.001751,-0.002745,-0.003462,0.003328,0.000361,-0.003473
HRV_EMA_Avar_Asian,0.097888,0.023357,0.015839,-0.014535,0.002154,-0.003626,0.003055,0.001154,-0.002045,0.000729,-0.005196,0.006294,-0.003717,-0.002477,0.001357,-0.018563,-0.015385,-0.002154,0.005279,0.008129,-0.005116,0.007543,-0.00949,-0.000723,0.001557
HRV_LateAntiquity,0.1154355,0.1479288,0.0068825,-0.0278049,0.0215679,-0.012643,0.0006267,0.0002501,0.0032212,0.0207293,-0.0007172,0.0055577,-0.0124378,-0.0015941,-0.0089237,0.0011823,0.0068452,-0.0021643,0.0030065,-0.0046376,-0.0064781,0.0000824,-0.0012325,0.0013958,-0.0000998
HRV_North_Roman,0.119059,0.1494858,0.0242866,-0.0114342,0.0301594,-0.0068606,0.000705,0.0015232,0.0029042,0.0186974,0.000487,0.0056348,-0.0119226,-0.0068538,-0.0040714,-0.005171,-0.0002348,0.0010894,0.0072152,-0.0068784,-0.0041676,0.0036846,-0.0001972,0.004049,-0.0021556
HRV_Roman_MiddleEast,0.1069937,0.1428513,-0.030295,-0.055879,-0.0006153,-0.020266,-0.005797,-0.004923,-0.0114533,0.0142143,0.0053043,0.0061447,-0.000892,-0.0050003,-0.0102693,0.003536,0.0169933,-0.0023647,0.000419,-0.0040853,-0.0054487,-0.0010717,-0.003533,0.0012853,-0.0009983
HRV_Roman,0.1211076,0.1549698,0.0158392,-0.0264214,0.0300362,-0.0102632,-0.001128,0.0003692,0.0103488,0.031126,0.0019488,0.0049158,-0.0117442,-0.0037158,-0.0120246,-0.0086714,0.0002348,0.00299,0.0074414,-0.0078538,-0.0029198,0.0039076,0.001405,0.0016628,-0.0028736
HUN_Avar_Gepidian,0.1273193,0.1353556,0.0471401,0.024871,0.0350834,0.0075699,0.0018464,0.0036591,0.0041196,0.006118,-0.0036884,0.0036183,-0.0061799,-0.0032243,0.0048861,0.0062126,0.0029057,0.0038189,0.0057101,0.000661,0.003387,0.0017489,0.0018664,0.0087446,-0.0036951
HUN_Avar_RomanThracian,0.1197355,0.1455594,0.0154515,-0.0203849,0.0245771,-0.0076928,0.0002089,-0.0000256,0.0025452,0.0214988,0.000785,0.0049623,-0.0105797,0.0019306,-0.0104354,-0.0032338,0.0041034,0.0006827,0.00669,-0.0055408,-0.0059859,0.0039706,0.000017,0.0030961,-0.0028772
HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija),0.133173,0.131511,0.07071,0.056848,0.0350835,0.028726,0.006815,0.0077305,0.006136,-0.016492,-0.0016235,-0.0060695,0.00773,0.021538,-0.0115365,-0.0017235,0,0.0013305,0.007856,5e-04,0.0007485,-0.004204,0.0083805,-0.006145,0.0030535
HUN_MA_Szolad_Local,0.1177254,0.151314,0.0157311,-0.0240866,0.0265981,-0.0119923,-0.0001343,-0.0016483,0.0063989,0.0262421,0.000951,0.0072791,-0.0122114,-0.0025757,-0.0056226,-0.0020834,0.0066681,0.0003257,0.0056026,-0.0035373,-0.0058647,0.0034974,0.0018136,0.000809,-0.004311
IND_Roopkund_A,0.0456004,-0.0622011,-0.1456394,0.1089727,-0.0717441,0.0594735,-0.0012631,0.0111052,0.037006,0.0210711,-0.0030548,-0.0002436,0.0001673,0.0026149,-0.0040969,-0.0050965,-0.0007741,0.0004197,-0.0004321,0.0016258,0.0017312,-0.0013061,0.0016253,0.0027336,-0.0037796
MNE_Roman,0.113823,0.153345,0.013576,-0.032623,0.016618,-0.013945,0.00517,-0.004846,-0.000409,0.029158,-0.006171,0.004646,-0.015758,-0.000138,-0.011808,-0.015646,-0.004303,0.008488,0.007919,-0.011005,-0.000624,0.007048,-0.003821,-0.004458,-0.004191
ROU_Ploiesti_MA,0.078538,-0.177718,0.06675,0.028747,-0.053856,-0.006693,0.012691,0.014307,-0.007567,-0.011845,-0.007795,-0.005245,0.001784,-0.01913,0.001086,-0.008221,-0.001304,0.005321,0.00176,0.005002,-0.015473,0.009027,-0.007641,-0.000723,0.005029
SRB_Roman_MiddleEast,0.095042,0.148267,-0.037901,-0.067184,-0.0092325,-0.023566,0.000705,-0.006115,-0.0016365,0.0174035,0.0002435,0.000075,0.0081765,0.002202,-0.0095,-0.0062315,0.0000655,0.001837,0.012821,-0.0044395,-0.0088595,0.004266,-0.0030195,-0.003856,0.00012
SRB_Roman,0.121601,0.155376,0.0147707,-0.0269167,0.031339,-0.0101332,0.00094,0.0043077,0.0062722,0.0310408,0.0033558,0.0088423,-0.0128343,0.0005273,-0.0163997,-0.0062537,0.0057587,-0.0007602,0.007877,-0.0078372,-0.0089425,0.0031737,-0.0026293,0.0031932,-0.0017362
SVN_Emona,0.1206522,0.1475055,0.0247015,-0.011951,0.024543,-0.007112,0.0035838,0.0026538,0.0056245,0.0227795,0.0012178,0.0058072,-0.0095515,0.0019268,-0.0095345,-0.0009612,0.0084748,-0.0005382,0.000817,-0.0017508,-0.0027762,0.0018238,0.0028345,0.0032835,-0.0050292
SVN_Germanic:R10474,0.133173,0.121864,0.072784,0.06783,0.040931,0.026774,0.008225,0.006692,-0.006545,-0.010205,-0.002436,0.007493,-0.011298,-0.006331,0.02158,0.023468,0.017211,0.003927,0.008296,0.010005,0.011605,0.001484,0.007395,0.010845,-0.005029
TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija),0.130897,0.133034,0.065242,0.037791,0.043085,0.008646,0.008225,0.019615,-0.005931,-0.016401,0.00065,-0.007343,0.008771,0.019955,-0.008143,0.003447,0.009257,-0.004434,-0.004651,-0.002626,-0.007736,-0.005193,0.011216,-0.007712,-0.007664
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--- Крај цитата ---

Хвала, ево и мојих резултата.

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.3842% / 0.01384190
35.2   HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
34.0   TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
14.6   SRB_Roman
7.8   BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
4.0   HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
2.8   ROU_Ploiesti_MA
1.6   MNE_Roman

Душан:

--- Цитат: Никац Децембар 12, 2022, 12:04:27 пре подне ---
Крајишки и Босански Срби имају и утицај Илиро-Романа:

Target: SerbianK
Distance: 1.3198% / 0.01319822
36.8   HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
23.8   TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
10.8   HRV_Roman_MiddleEast
9.0   HRV_North_Roman
7.2   MNE_Roman
6.0   HRV_Roman
5.0   SRB_Roman
1.4   ROU_Ploiesti_MA (Kuman)

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Ово је погрешан закључак.
Пре-словенска компонента крајишких Срба не разликује се од осталих.

Зашто се очекује присуство тих локалних Илира ("HRV_Roman"), када смо насељени на празан простор током 16. века?
Пресловенска компонента је централнобалканска мезијска, у мом случају чак вуче према трачанској из неког разлога.

Никац:

--- Цитат: Душан Децембар 14, 2022, 12:32:33 поподне ---Ово је погрешан закључак.
Пре-словенска компонента крајишких Срба не разликује се од осталих.

Зашто се очекује присуство тих локалних Илира ("HRV_Roman"), када смо насељени на празан простор током 16. века?
Пресловенска компонента је централнобалканска мезијска, у мом случају чак вуче према трачанској из неког разлога.

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Овдје су 2 крајишка и 1 (источно)босански Србин узети као примјер Срба западно од Ибра.

Да имамо резултате из Херцеговине или Западне Србије, вјерујем да би били слични овоме. У Црној Гори су већ неки други процеси.

У изворној средњовјековној Србији (западно од Ибра) Срби су се мијешали с некаквим Илиро-Романима, који наравно нису више били чисти Илири. Мислим да ови узорци HRV_Roman и MNE_Roman управо њих представљају.

Од њихових хаплогрупа преживјеле су, по мом мишљењу Васојевићка грана E-V13, и J2b1 Кричи.

Наравно, кад су се Срби почели ширити источно од Ибра, шире са собом и нешто те илиро-романске генетике. Мислим да се управо овако ширила J2b1 према унутрашњости Балкана.
Али то су можда неке нијансе које G25 не може препознати.

Душан:

--- Цитат: Никац Децембар 14, 2022, 01:43:36 поподне ---Овдје су 2 крајишка и 1 (источно)босански Србин узети као примјер Срба западно од Ибра.

Да имамо резултате из Херцеговине или Западне Србије, вјерујем да би били слични овоме. У Црној Гори су већ неки други процеси.

У изворној средњовјековној Србији (западно од Ибра) Срби су се мијешали с некаквим Илиро-Романима, који наравно нису више били чисти Илири. Мислим да ови узорци HRV_Roman и MNE_Roman управо њих представљају.

Од њихових хаплогрупа преживјеле су, по мом мишљењу Васојевићка грана E-V13, и J2b1 Кричи.

Наравно, кад су се Срби почели ширити источно од Ибра, шире са собом и нешто те илиро-романске генетике. Мислим да се управо овако ширила J2b1 према унутрашњости Балкана.
Али то су можда неке нијансе које G25 не може препознати.

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Ево и Драјвер је добио сличне компоненте као и ја:

--- Цитат: drajver Децембар 14, 2022, 08:02:49 поподне ---Target: Simo_scaled
Distance: 1.6191% / 0.01619143
33.2   HUN_Avar_Szolad(Sloven_Panonija)
20.2   TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3(Sloven_Anadolija)
19.2   BGR_RomByz(Thracian)
18.8   HUN_Avar_RomanThracian
5.8   SRB_Roman
2.6   ROU_Ploiesti_MA
0.2   SRB_Roman_MiddleEast

--- Крај цитата ---

НикПав:
Имајте у виду и чињеницу да коришћење симулованих координата даје мало другачије резултате од оригиналних (ипак нису добијене истом методом), као и чињеницу да код калкулатора који користе узорке који су релативно слични може доћи до тога да једна компонента "једе" другу.
Можда би било добро користити ADC 0.25 или чак 0.5, али у том случају ће и нека минорна наслеђа нестати.

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